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Old 07-23-2004, 02:42 AM
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Default Ok seriously....... i'm REALLY getting pissed at my car... It wont start

as some of you know i swapped a d16z6 (+ uberdata p28 + obd1 distro + 450dsms with my stock ef resistors) into my car only to find out the head had bent valves :-/
So i threw in my A6 head to get it running and; well; THE MOTHER ****** WON'T RUN!

i've tried everything; it gets fuel; it gets spark and it gets air. the block-head timing is spot on and the ignition timing is probably not right but i can see the cylinder one firing a bit before TDC with the timing light. I don't have a z6 timing belt cover to set the timing with exactly but i should at least be getting something shouldnt i?!

Today i replaced the cap and rotor thinking maybe it wasn't getting enough spark but that didnt help.

I did get it to fire when i unplugged the fuel pump and as soon as it started sputtering i plugged it back in and it ran VERY rough and i had to give it a fair amount of throttle to keep it going. my dad moved the distro but it didnt help a whole lot and eventually died.

What the ---- could my problem be? i'm not throwing any check engine lights; the obd0-obd1 harness is wired right (at least in the car and the distro isn't throwing any codes); and i'm 99.9% sure the block/cam timing is right...

I'm seriously about to throw in the towel and sell this ------- hunk of ---- car and never ever look at another Honda as long as i live if this thing doesn't fire up soon.
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Old 07-23-2004, 10:53 AM
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maybe your off 180 degreese on your timing. and running way rich? have you checked your injectors. maybe you need a whole new dizzy.
The distributor only goes on one way. If you look at the shaft, the slot is offset to one side. So timing cannot be off 180.
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:22 AM
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maybe your off 180 degreese on your timing. and running way rich? have you checked your injectors. maybe you need a whole new dizzy.
The distributor only goes on one way. If you look at the shaft, the slot is offset to one side. So timing cannot be off 180.
yeah it can if you really really force it on there. D series is prety hard to do B series is easy to do.
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:27 AM
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ok.. so .. 450's w/ resistor. p28 chipped obd1 dist, z6 motor w/ a6 head.

are you still using the obd1 dist?

you DID get a obd0-obd1 harness right?
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Old 07-23-2004, 11:28 AM
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ok... here's the thing... you went w/ a whole new set-up that changed everything... ecu, injectors, head, dizzy, etc....
what you need to do is put your obd0 dizzy back on, stock ecu back in, old injectors back on, and pull the wastegate actuator arm off. this will allow you to troubleshoot the problem.

then you will be able to tell where the problem lies...
hope this helps!

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Old 07-23-2004, 03:47 PM
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problem is; the obd1 harness is hardwired into the car; can't go back to the pm6 if i wanted to.

I threw my old 240cc injectors back in the fuel rail and cut J1 but it did the same ----;

I am working on trying to replace the distro so maybe soon....


this ****** is really pissing me off. i guess i'm just going to have to wait until i get the other Z6 head in to make it work :-/
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ok.. so .. 450's w/ resistor. p28 chipped obd1 dist, z6 motor w/ a6 head.

are you still using the obd1 dist?

you DID get a obd0-obd1 harness right?
yes; and yes; does no one read?

the obd1 harness is hardwired into my car and the distro is hardwired into the engine harness with molex plugs :-/
no ------- salvage yards around here had ANYTHING obd0 or obd1 honda that i could use i have checked continutity between all the wires on the engine harness and the distro and i get no codes; still doesn't mean i wired something backwards i guess :-/ but i dont know how wiring something backwards would effect the car
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hit me up on aim later if you want that head. Have been getting on but you havent been on. -Nick
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cam timing off? sounds like it
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