NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
08-04-2004, 03:49 AM
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NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
I swear this government gets any bigger and im going to move. 
you know what this will lead to, "we saw him speeding and here is your ticket in hte mail" ------- controlling jerks 
Officials at the National Transportation Safety Board are recommending the government require data recorders in all passenger vehicles. David Sobel of EPIC says his group has privacy concerns - especially when drivers are unaware of the presence of the devices
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...841EDT0330.DTL
you know what this will lead to, "we saw him speeding and here is your ticket in hte mail" ------- controlling jerks Officials at the National Transportation Safety Board are recommending the government require data recorders in all passenger vehicles. David Sobel of EPIC says his group has privacy concerns - especially when drivers are unaware of the presence of the devices
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...841EDT0330.DTL
08-04-2004, 07:21 AM
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Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
Originally Posted by Semnos
I would just take it out of my car.
If it's embedded in the ECU I would buy a standalone...problem solved.
If it's embedded in the ECU I would buy a standalone...problem solved.
08-04-2004, 12:48 PM
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Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
It is already happening on smaller scales. rental cars have begun putting black boxes and GPs units in their cars to accurately track mileage on their cars. Plus, if you take the car out of state when you told them you werent going to, they can find out and charge you. They can also track how fast you traveled. People claim that soon they will charge you more to rent a car from them if they see that you were speeidng the last time you rented from them. Also, think about Onstar. It is basically a GPS/car controller with a 2 way radio. Onstar knows where your car is, if your airbags were deployed, etc. Granted, it is nice to have such a service in case of an accident, theft, lock out, etc., but who is to stop them from looking at the data to determine how fast you were going when you crashed into another car? The insurance companies would love to get their hands on that type of info. All of this ---- worries me, b/c I value my privacy a lot, and I do not think that driving habits are the only cause of accidents.
08-04-2004, 01:39 PM
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Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
Originally Posted by deacon2377
It is already happening on smaller scales. rental cars have begun putting black boxes and GPs units in their cars to accurately track mileage on their cars. Plus, if you take the car out of state when you told them you werent going to, they can find out and charge you. They can also track how fast you traveled. People claim that soon they will charge you more to rent a car from them if they see that you were speeidng the last time you rented from them. Also, think about Onstar. It is basically a GPS/car controller with a 2 way radio. Onstar knows where your car is, if your airbags were deployed, etc. Granted, it is nice to have such a service in case of an accident, theft, lock out, etc., but who is to stop them from looking at the data to determine how fast you were going when you crashed into another car? The insurance companies would love to get their hands on that type of info. All of this ---- worries me, b/c I value my privacy a lot, and I do not think that driving habits are the only cause of accidents.
I wonder if rental companys can tell if you take the car through a corn field and done doughnuts with there cars and ---- like that. lol.
08-04-2004, 02:22 PM
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Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
the black box, if something that unconstitutional ever were to exist. will be easily crackable. all of the inputs will be electronic, therfor we will be able to use an "AFC" type of thing and just change the inputs before they reach the box. No big deal, except for the whole BIG BROTHER-NESS. It'll never fly anyway, there is no way.
08-04-2004, 02:39 PM
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Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
Originally Posted by sccaeg
Originally Posted by deacon2377
It is already happening on smaller scales. rental cars have begun putting black boxes and GPs units in their cars to accurately track mileage on their cars. Plus, if you take the car out of state when you told them you werent going to, they can find out and charge you. They can also track how fast you traveled. People claim that soon they will charge you more to rent a car from them if they see that you were speeidng the last time you rented from them. Also, think about Onstar. It is basically a GPS/car controller with a 2 way radio. Onstar knows where your car is, if your airbags were deployed, etc. Granted, it is nice to have such a service in case of an accident, theft, lock out, etc., but who is to stop them from looking at the data to determine how fast you were going when you crashed into another car? The insurance companies would love to get their hands on that type of info. All of this ---- worries me, b/c I value my privacy a lot, and I do not think that driving habits are the only cause of accidents.
I wonder if rental companys can tell if you take the car through a corn field and done doughnuts with there cars and ---- like that. lol.
