The Matrix - Could It Be? Will it Be? All you could want to know (long post)
05-02-2004, 02:17 AM
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whitey, you may be right, but as is everything life and death is a circle. you die to become something else, whether we have a "spirit" or not is debateable, although i believe we probably do, if we die we are put into the earth to become whatever may become from our body, nutrients for the plants or whatever it may be. PI is a unit of measurement, yes, but can you explain why it doesnt end? can you explain why this "number" deals with a circle? Also why are the only circles on our bodies our eyes? i dont believe you can. all of the other numbers in our number system have an end but yet PI doesnt, make sense of that. PI is in everything, a circle is in everything, and what happens will happen over and over, its a never ending cycle. There are a lot of stupid people on this site but obviously you are not one of them.
i figured this out after i took mushrooms and went insane, i started screaming i dont give a ----, saying it never ends, and trying to write on the ground "0 is the answer to life", by zero i think i meant a circle. and after it was all said and done i was in the hospital going crazy, i saw a lot of crazy things that the drug "unlocked" from my brain, i believe when we die we are reincarnated as something else. yeah yeah call me stupid but that was in the past, everything happens for a reason, be it good or bad, you must look at it as a lesson. sorry for the long post.
i figured this out after i took mushrooms and went insane, i started screaming i dont give a ----, saying it never ends, and trying to write on the ground "0 is the answer to life", by zero i think i meant a circle. and after it was all said and done i was in the hospital going crazy, i saw a lot of crazy things that the drug "unlocked" from my brain, i believe when we die we are reincarnated as something else. yeah yeah call me stupid but that was in the past, everything happens for a reason, be it good or bad, you must look at it as a lesson. sorry for the long post.
05-02-2004, 02:18 AM
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Re:The Matrix - Could It Be? Will it Be? All you could want to know (long post
First and foremost a word must have an association with it in order to have meaning. If I say, glibbity to you... it has no meaning because you can't reference it to anything. However if I say puppy, you generate an image of a puppy and fulfill a memory and make reference to a puppy.
Now we get to the problems with God. It is equally likely that there is a God and that there isn't irregardless, the Christian notion is bullshit because of the following problems:
a) God loves all. How can this be? Love is a HUMAN emotion, does God have human emotions is he as flawed as we are? The language of love for humans implies something different, if I say I love all is it the same thing as saying God loves all? The implications are different and contradictory.
b) God is merciful - again a human emotion. We are applying humanism to a being that is obviously superior to us something that we cannot comprehend.
c) Can you logically say that you can comprehend a being thats superior to you? No... there is no way to logically understand or make any statements regarding that being.
This is why I am a thiest. I believe there might be a divine purpose, and there might not be. But in any event it is impossible to make any judgements regarding God because it is a being outside of human knowledge and therefore illogical to discuss.
I hope that clarifies the athiestic position.
Now we get to the problems with God. It is equally likely that there is a God and that there isn't irregardless, the Christian notion is bullshit because of the following problems:
a) God loves all. How can this be? Love is a HUMAN emotion, does God have human emotions is he as flawed as we are? The language of love for humans implies something different, if I say I love all is it the same thing as saying God loves all? The implications are different and contradictory.
b) God is merciful - again a human emotion. We are applying humanism to a being that is obviously superior to us something that we cannot comprehend.
c) Can you logically say that you can comprehend a being thats superior to you? No... there is no way to logically understand or make any statements regarding that being.
This is why I am a thiest. I believe there might be a divine purpose, and there might not be. But in any event it is impossible to make any judgements regarding God because it is a being outside of human knowledge and therefore illogical to discuss.
I hope that clarifies the athiestic position.
05-02-2004, 02:21 AM
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Re:The Matrix - Could It Be? Will it Be? All you could want to know (long post
Originally Posted by Scottsi
whitey, you may be right, but as is everything life and death is a circle. you die to become something else, whether we have a "spirit" or not is debateable, although i believe we probably do, if we die we are put into the earth to become whatever may become from our body, nutrients for the plants or whatever it may be. PI is a unit of measurement, yes, but can you explain why it doesnt end? can you explain why this "number" deals with a circle? Also why are the only circles on our bodies our eyes? i dont believe you can. all of the other numbers in our number system have an end but yet PI doesnt, make sense of that. PI is in everything, a circle is in everything, and what happens will happen over and over, its a never ending cycle. There are a lot of stupid people on this site but obviously you are not one of them.
i figured this out after i took mushrooms and went insane, i started screaming i dont give a ----, saying it never ends, and trying to write on the ground "0 is the answer to life", by zero i think i meant a circle. and after it was all said and done i was in the hospital going crazy, i saw a lot of crazy things that the drug "unlocked" from my brain, i believe when we die we are reincarnated as something else. yeah yeah call me stupid but that was in the past, everything happens for a reason, be it good or bad, you must look at it as a lesson. sorry for the long post.
i figured this out after i took mushrooms and went insane, i started screaming i dont give a ----, saying it never ends, and trying to write on the ground "0 is the answer to life", by zero i think i meant a circle. and after it was all said and done i was in the hospital going crazy, i saw a lot of crazy things that the drug "unlocked" from my brain, i believe when we die we are reincarnated as something else. yeah yeah call me stupid but that was in the past, everything happens for a reason, be it good or bad, you must look at it as a lesson. sorry for the long post.
The truth is that a perfect circle is impossible because atoms could not form together into objects if they were in circles there would be "holes" in them. Or maybe there are?
05-02-2004, 02:42 AM
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Theres also some interesting work about the "God is Dead" by Nietzsche. Some interesting stuff. Though lately I've been figuring that there is some sort of sub-concious reality we are unaware of and evolving towards. Its hard to explain, I haven't fully worked the theory out in my head.
But it seems to me that there are some universal laws.
1) Life is random
2) We are victims of a causal chain
3) We can never fully understand our own brains, because in order to understand how smart you are you have to be smarter then yourself (paradox).
4) Most japanese girls are attractive.
5) The so-called cycle you spoke of, or the "perfect circle" is a cycle - perhaps you should read some into hinduism they have alot of references in that religion to the cycle of life. There is the creation, the living, and the destruction. Though there are many Gods in that religion, they are all from the One god. It is an interesting religion to study.
But it seems to me that there are some universal laws.
1) Life is random
2) We are victims of a causal chain
3) We can never fully understand our own brains, because in order to understand how smart you are you have to be smarter then yourself (paradox).
4) Most japanese girls are attractive.
5) The so-called cycle you spoke of, or the "perfect circle" is a cycle - perhaps you should read some into hinduism they have alot of references in that religion to the cycle of life. There is the creation, the living, and the destruction. Though there are many Gods in that religion, they are all from the One god. It is an interesting religion to study.
05-02-2004, 03:13 AM
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To me the most amazing thing is that how easily manipulated the brain can be. Look at how drugs can cause specific and complete and various reactions. Anyone who has tripped acid will know what I am talking about.
Imagine plugging little electrodes into your brain and being able to sustain the feeling of orgasm or utter "bliss" kind of like soma in a brave new world.
All this ---- has given me a new idea for a book to write
Imagine plugging little electrodes into your brain and being able to sustain the feeling of orgasm or utter "bliss" kind of like soma in a brave new world.
All this ---- has given me a new idea for a book to write
05-02-2004, 03:39 AM
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Re:The Matrix - Could It Be? Will it Be? All you could want to know (long post
Originally Posted by Scottsi
whitey, you may be right, but as is everything life and death is a circle. PI is a unit of measurement, yes, but can you explain why it doesnt end? can you explain why this "number" deals with a circle?
I can explain why Pi is infinite, becuase it describes a unit of measurement of a circle. Just look at a circle and you should get your answer of why it is infinite. A circle isn't pi, a circle is pi X radius squared. Pi just a multiplier. In mathematics a circle is usually computed in sine and cosine curves, which do not go in a circle at all but in an infinite line between Pi and -Pi. And by using these sine and cosine curves we can calculate exactly when a circle ends and when it begins. Remember length is a unit of measurement to describe the distance between two points. So, if you want to know when a circle ends and begins, pick a point and multiply it by Pi x R squared.
Originally Posted by Scottsi
all of the other numbers in our number system have an end but yet PI doesnt, make sense of that. PI is in everything, a circle is in everything, and what happens will happen over and over, its a never ending cycle.
Actually our number system itself never ends just like Pi. And actually you contradicted yourself with your whole Pi being everything theory becuase pi NEVER REPEATS ITSELF. This is why it is the way it is. So therefore the multiplier Pi is actually not a circle itself instead just a huge *** number which we use to calculate the size of a circle.
Again, mathematics can prove and disprove everything.
05-02-2004, 03:45 AM
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Re:The Matrix - Could It Be? Will it Be? All you could want to know (long post
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Originally Posted by Scottsi
whitey, you may be right, but as is everything life and death is a circle. PI is a unit of measurement, yes, but can you explain why it doesnt end? can you explain why this "number" deals with a circle?
I can explain why Pi is infinite, becuase it describes a unit of measurement of a circle. Just look at a circle and you should get your answer of why it is infinite. A circle isn't pi, a circle is pi X radius squared. Pi just a multiplier. In mathematics a circle is usually computed in sine and cosine curves, which do not go in a circle at all but in an infinite line between Pi and -Pi. And by using these sine and cosine curves we can calculate exactly when a circle ends and when it begins. Remember length is a unit of measurement to describe the distance between two points. So, if you want to know when a circle ends and begins, pick a point and multiply it by Pi x R squared.
Originally Posted by Scottsi
all of the other numbers in our number system have an end but yet PI doesnt, make sense of that. PI is in everything, a circle is in everything, and what happens will happen over and over, its a never ending cycle.
Actually our number system itself never ends just like Pi. And actually you contradicted yourself with your whole Pi being everything theory becuase pi NEVER REPEATS ITSELF. This is why it is the way it is. So therefore the multiplier Pi is actually not a circle itself instead just a huge *** number which we use to calculate the size of a circle.
Again, mathematics can prove and disprove everything.
05-02-2004, 04:00 AM
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Re:The Matrix - Could It Be? Will it Be? All you could want to know (long post
Originally Posted by Scottsi
Also why are the only circles on our bodies our eyes?
Lol, I don't know about you but my ***** seem pretty ------- round to me.
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Wait Im lost on how they can prove and disprove anything? I think it only matters on how the context of the evidence is examined. When you apply the logic to it you learn the sad truth about it correct?
Its very easy to prove something. You can prove things through math, observation, science and experimentation. A law is something that cannot be broken, it holds true for everything. If you think we're living inside a computer, more power to you, science can prove what you can and cannot do while inside that computer.
The irony of this whole post is we're arguing about the movie the Matrix and I'm actually studying for my final in my Matricies class. Doesn't that just blow your mine?
Soo, if you give me a vector I can mathematically prove if its an orthonormal or an orthogonal basis by finding if its linerly dependent or independent of that vector by putting it in reduced row echelon form. Thats how I can actually prove something :P
05-02-2004, 04:13 AM
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Re:The Matrix - Could It Be? Will it Be? All you could want to know (long post
Originally Posted by kain
the matrix has nothing to do with technology and everything to do with god.
think about it. its all about god.
think about it. its all about god.
I will ask my brother to tell God to bless you all.
