liberals found a way to raise taxes without actually raising it
#42
Re: liberals found a way to raise taxes without actually raising it
Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
finally, johnny says something credible. currently, corn production can only supply 14-15 million gallons of ethanol, where the US consumes a total of 125 million gallons of gas. you can make alcohol out of trash.. yet they won't. who wants gas that doesnt smell like gas? :1
#43
Re: liberals found a way to raise taxes without actually raising it
Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
finally, johnny says something credible. currently, corn production can only supply 14-15 million gallons of ethanol, where the US consumes a total of 125 million gallons of gas. you can make alcohol out of trash.. yet they won't. who wants gas that doesnt smell like gas? :1
#44
Re: liberals found a way to raise taxes without actually raising it
Fine you know what we can grow that yields way more than corn? Sugar beets and sugar cane developed to need less light that grows slower, but it still grows. Half truths and whole lies, Johnny. But that's what we expect along with your total wish to stall debate. It's one thing to disagree and talk about things but it's an entire other thing to say "no" or "won't happen."
With regards to performance... What do top performance guys run? Alky. Why do you think it takes so much energy to create ethanol? The main source of energy for the creation of ethanol is light, which is free. The only work comes from harvesting (which we are great at doing efficiently) and grinding/boiling the fermented mash. Yeast is cheap as ----. Heat to boil? Again wood for the small scale or hydroelectric/nuclear power for heating elements in larger operations. It's all feasible, it's just not something that will happen immediately but the start is already happening so.
With regards to performance... What do top performance guys run? Alky. Why do you think it takes so much energy to create ethanol? The main source of energy for the creation of ethanol is light, which is free. The only work comes from harvesting (which we are great at doing efficiently) and grinding/boiling the fermented mash. Yeast is cheap as ----. Heat to boil? Again wood for the small scale or hydroelectric/nuclear power for heating elements in larger operations. It's all feasible, it's just not something that will happen immediately but the start is already happening so.
#45
Re: liberals found a way to raise taxes without actually raising it
torgan shut the ---- up god damned moron.
if you put the entire US argriculture export market into high yield crops it wouldn't make a dent into the god damned gasoline need for the country.
alcohol absed fuels in the US are nothing but a republican dumbass waste of money. Im glad that bullshit is almost non-existant in the majority of the south.
if you put the entire US argriculture export market into high yield crops it wouldn't make a dent into the god damned gasoline need for the country.
alcohol absed fuels in the US are nothing but a republican dumbass waste of money. Im glad that bullshit is almost non-existant in the majority of the south.
#47
Re: liberals found a way to raise taxes without actually raising it
Originally Posted by random-strike
in oregon they are starting to force 20% ethanol in gasoline...
since you will get less mpg... you'll have to buy more gallons of gas... and you pay tax on every gallon.
more tax, without actually raising it. not to mention it'll raise the price of gasoline, and also raise the price of food, corn in particular...
also all the problems with fuel filters, fuel pumps, rubber seals, more frequent oil changes, etc...
its said you have to burn 1 gallon of regular diesel to produce 1.3 gallons of ethonal... (farming and transportation... etc...)
we're getting screwed really hard on this...
since you will get less mpg... you'll have to buy more gallons of gas... and you pay tax on every gallon.
more tax, without actually raising it. not to mention it'll raise the price of gasoline, and also raise the price of food, corn in particular...
also all the problems with fuel filters, fuel pumps, rubber seals, more frequent oil changes, etc...
its said you have to burn 1 gallon of regular diesel to produce 1.3 gallons of ethonal... (farming and transportation... etc...)
we're getting screwed really hard on this...
wow, The U.S. must be getting bad, because i agree with you fully. that's fucked up.
#49
Re: liberals found a way to raise taxes without actually raising it
torgan just so you know. Put the 22 gallons / acre of ethanol u can produce across the entire 302 million acres of harvested US land and you get 6.644 billion gallons of ethanol. Where as the US consumes 388.6 million gallons a day. Take out your 75% eocnomy penalty and the entire yearly supply of ethanol would last 12 days. Consiquently:
so ethanol and ethanol's supporters are ------- stupid. it only works in brazil where they have a workable farm land VS fuel need equation.
- We, and much of the world starve to death
The economy crashes because food exports are the #1 US export
We can only actually make at most 75% of the crop said simply from crop rotation. So make it an 8 day supply
so ethanol and ethanol's supporters are ------- stupid. it only works in brazil where they have a workable farm land VS fuel need equation.
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