Iraqi prisoner abuse
05-09-2004, 09:50 AM
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Re:Iraqi prisoner abuse
Originally Posted by sohcrxsi
its almost like everyone forgot about the planes those sand ------ flew into our buildings.
I think Metallica said it best "Kill em' all"
That picture is far worse than the lame *** picture of the U.S torture drama. Even at our worst moment we aren't that fucked up. No mercy......
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05-09-2004, 10:29 PM
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Re:Iraqi prisoner abuse
Iraqis didn't fly into the Trade Centers (not that they wouldnt, but they didnt) Saudi Arabians did. The only reason we are in Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia is because GW needs the Saudi oil. Not like we see any lower prices for not invading them though.
05-09-2004, 10:36 PM
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Re:Iraqi prisoner abuse
Originally Posted by Scottsi
hitler was a genuis, i wish i could be like him
If Hitler was so smart he wouldn't have tried to exterminate an entire race and conquer the world. If you want to be like him, its easy...go in a bunker and shoot yourself in the face.
Although, a complete genocide of all the middle eastern people would solve a ton of problems in the world. Sure, millions of innocence would be killed but I guess you can't make an omlet with killing millions of camel jockies...or something like that.
05-10-2004, 09:15 PM
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Re:Iraqi prisoner abuse
05-10-2004, 10:41 PM
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Re:Iraqi prisoner abuse
Originally Posted by rudebwoy
and guess what those are Iraqi civilians celebrating, 80% are bad. there will be no changes, they are like lions born to kill, thats all they know...
05-10-2004, 10:49 PM
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Re:Iraqi prisoner abuse
Originally Posted by racerex
I would totally agree with you if what you're saying about the Iraqi people was true.
I think that should put things into perspective for you. Those are burnt to a crisp bodies of completely innocent US civilian contractors hanging from that bridge that were beaten after they had already been killed and burnt.
Do you beleive it now?!
05-11-2004, 12:59 PM
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05-11-2004, 02:19 PM
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Re:Iraqi prisoner abuse
^^^
It is clear the resolve that these militants have, and why not. They run and hide behind the Politically Correct targets, step out and ****** an innocent man then return to their Mosque...
War is sick and dirty, it doesnt care about being politically correct. The US has tried to fight wars (since Vietnam) blindfolded and with one hand tied behind its back.
Why? Well I blame the damn media and its "imbedded" reporters...they need to get their *** out of there. They are really not at all concerned with winning a war. They are "unbiased" yet are profit based (WTF). During the intial invasion in March I was sickened by the "front line" reporting. American civilians do not and should not see any of that $hit. War is hell, and just broadcasting it to any idiot with a TV is inherantly going to hurt popular opinion/moral. During WWII the press was SIGNIFICANTLY CENSORED, Rosevelt held a very short leash around what the press could and couldnt sensor.
What if the American public of 1942 knew that American front line units were experiencing 130% annual Causilty rates. Do you think the US/british would have pushed pased the Rhine? Hitler porbably would have just been bargained with, and allowed to continue on...
Now we are in a similar role...No Iraq did not participate directly in the 9/11 attacks. However the current state of the middle east is spiraling downwards at an alarming rate.
Saudi Arabia is close to civil war, as the poor Wahibi's in the north are pissed at the Saud family, and the 60-70% unemployment. Also GNP of Saudi has decreased 30-40% since '87, they are losing money, the oil fields aren't as productive anymore, and are becoming threatend, as Siberian oil exploration is yielding much cheaper oil sources.
Iran is also on verge of collapse. The Immorality Council headed by The current Ayatolha is now at odds with the newly elected President whom is bringing democratic reforms. The Imams, and Ayatolha are not to pleased, and are regularly throwing teachers/political leaders/students in jail. Many University students are starting to rebel and openly protest.
As for Syria...Its forces are sucked up holding Lebanon, if it is flanked by a US friendly country (Iraq) it also risks a slow decay as it will be incabable of spliting its lebanese occuping force to deal with any Eastern threat without losing Lebanon and protecting itself from any Israeli threat , which is its major source of income now that the Oil trade with Iraq has dried up.
Now, what happens if the US builds and educates a free/democratic Iraq? Well now you have a secular stronghold within an area on the verge of anarchy, educated college students and giving some moderate paying jobs to out of work Saudi's/Palestinan refugees, and Iranian dissedants. That is why Iraq is so damn important and why we invaded, and we every other Militant muslim nation is sending every Suicide bomber, drug addict and criminal to the area...To save their own ***.
The US needs to realize that it is once again AT WAR. And not a dinky conflict. The economy needs to move to a wartime footing....ie rationing/war bonds/etc. and we need to send an OVERWHEMING force into the Region to crush every possible hope.
For every Abrams tank that is destroyed, three more should be sent. For every city block that resists american soldiers, an artilary battery should rain hell and pulverize. Instead of sending some poor private to stick his nose into a door...put a damn HE howitzer shell through the damn roof.
And round up every civilian reporter and send them the hell away.
Sound drastic? well that is war, and anyone who doubts what war is should read up on history. Especial refering to our own AMERICAN CIVIL WAR. In that war we faced effective southern resistence until the Union adopted Scorched Earth Policies burning every town that they faced resistence TO THE GROUND. We killed every poor southern american that resisted, because that was to ONLY WAY to keep our country together.
Now 140 years later every history book on the subject addressed that although the severe scorched earth policies were regretable, they were the only thing that crushed all Southern Resistence, and the Southern Will to Fight.
Esentially what I am saying is that America should ---- OR GET OFF THE DAMN POT!
It is clear the resolve that these militants have, and why not. They run and hide behind the Politically Correct targets, step out and ****** an innocent man then return to their Mosque...
War is sick and dirty, it doesnt care about being politically correct. The US has tried to fight wars (since Vietnam) blindfolded and with one hand tied behind its back.
Why? Well I blame the damn media and its "imbedded" reporters...they need to get their *** out of there. They are really not at all concerned with winning a war. They are "unbiased" yet are profit based (WTF). During the intial invasion in March I was sickened by the "front line" reporting. American civilians do not and should not see any of that $hit. War is hell, and just broadcasting it to any idiot with a TV is inherantly going to hurt popular opinion/moral. During WWII the press was SIGNIFICANTLY CENSORED, Rosevelt held a very short leash around what the press could and couldnt sensor.
What if the American public of 1942 knew that American front line units were experiencing 130% annual Causilty rates. Do you think the US/british would have pushed pased the Rhine? Hitler porbably would have just been bargained with, and allowed to continue on...
Now we are in a similar role...No Iraq did not participate directly in the 9/11 attacks. However the current state of the middle east is spiraling downwards at an alarming rate.
Saudi Arabia is close to civil war, as the poor Wahibi's in the north are pissed at the Saud family, and the 60-70% unemployment. Also GNP of Saudi has decreased 30-40% since '87, they are losing money, the oil fields aren't as productive anymore, and are becoming threatend, as Siberian oil exploration is yielding much cheaper oil sources.
Iran is also on verge of collapse. The Immorality Council headed by The current Ayatolha is now at odds with the newly elected President whom is bringing democratic reforms. The Imams, and Ayatolha are not to pleased, and are regularly throwing teachers/political leaders/students in jail. Many University students are starting to rebel and openly protest.
As for Syria...Its forces are sucked up holding Lebanon, if it is flanked by a US friendly country (Iraq) it also risks a slow decay as it will be incabable of spliting its lebanese occuping force to deal with any Eastern threat without losing Lebanon and protecting itself from any Israeli threat , which is its major source of income now that the Oil trade with Iraq has dried up.
Now, what happens if the US builds and educates a free/democratic Iraq? Well now you have a secular stronghold within an area on the verge of anarchy, educated college students and giving some moderate paying jobs to out of work Saudi's/Palestinan refugees, and Iranian dissedants. That is why Iraq is so damn important and why we invaded, and we every other Militant muslim nation is sending every Suicide bomber, drug addict and criminal to the area...To save their own ***.
The US needs to realize that it is once again AT WAR. And not a dinky conflict. The economy needs to move to a wartime footing....ie rationing/war bonds/etc. and we need to send an OVERWHEMING force into the Region to crush every possible hope.
For every Abrams tank that is destroyed, three more should be sent. For every city block that resists american soldiers, an artilary battery should rain hell and pulverize. Instead of sending some poor private to stick his nose into a door...put a damn HE howitzer shell through the damn roof.
And round up every civilian reporter and send them the hell away.
Sound drastic? well that is war, and anyone who doubts what war is should read up on history. Especial refering to our own AMERICAN CIVIL WAR. In that war we faced effective southern resistence until the Union adopted Scorched Earth Policies burning every town that they faced resistence TO THE GROUND. We killed every poor southern american that resisted, because that was to ONLY WAY to keep our country together.
Now 140 years later every history book on the subject addressed that although the severe scorched earth policies were regretable, they were the only thing that crushed all Southern Resistence, and the Southern Will to Fight.
Esentially what I am saying is that America should ---- OR GET OFF THE DAMN POT!
