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Old 04-10-2008, 08:22 PM
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fully built motor almost cracking 300 .. thats unheard of
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Old 04-10-2008, 10:54 PM
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Dude don't want to be a bum but don't ------- waste your time. I run 20psi daily on my 420a and its a POS. Im using 8 injectors and a EIC with a MSD. Do yourself a favor and sell that car and buy a honda or something and boost that.

What I have broke so far:
Engine at 8psi - ring lands blew off (cheap *** cast pistons)
3 turbos 13g; 14b; 14b (egay ---- so whatever)
Trans-axle - diff pin came out while cruising down the road, I could literally see through the trans-axle - I welded the bitch in this time. And I think this trans is on the way out too; lots of backlash.

Your better off spending it on a decent car. But if you decide to go though with it PM me for more info about setups ect. I'd be glad to help.
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:18 PM
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Honestly, i've always liked the 2g dsms since they came out in 95..... I saw a teal talon parked at the end of my old neighboorhood and though that ---- was awesome, especially how it said "talon" in the back.

I was brought up on v-8's so that was the first 4 banger i saw that i liked.


I'm sure when it comes time for me to quit putting money into it, i'll jump into a d-series project since parts are so readily available, all i'd have to do is throw a rock in any direction and go that way to get something.

Brake swaps, engine swaps, cheap forged internals, cheap turbo manifolds, cheap engine management.....

Trust me, this project isn't for keeps now that i know having a dsm is a pain in the ***..... I will get it boosted though and finish up a few odds and ends and then she's getting sold in favor of a nissan/honda.
Go for it man. As long as your having fun with it who cares?
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Old 04-13-2008, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by quadman313
Dude don't want to be a bum but don't ------- waste your time. I run 20psi daily on my 420a and its a POS. Im using 8 injectors and a EIC with a MSD. Do yourself a favor and sell that car and buy a honda or something and boost that.

What I have broke so far:
Engine at 8psi - ring lands blew off (cheap *** cast pistons)
3 turbos 13g; 14b; 14b (egay ---- so whatever)
Trans-axle - diff pin came out while cruising down the road, I could literally see through the trans-axle - I welded the bitch in this time. And I think this trans is on the way out too; lots of backlash.

Your better off spending it on a decent car. But if you decide to go though with it PM me for more info about setups ect. I'd be glad to help.
2gnt local?

They cost soooo much money to make fast, especially if it's an older, neglected car like mine.... $750 for forged internals, $400 for cams, $350 for the valvetrain, $200-300 for injectors, $399 for msnsII........ I can't have a kid and do what i want to do to this car. It just isn't going to happen.

I already have alot of my turbo parts.

I've already blown a tranny. Liked to not go into the gears sometimes and in the last few weeks i was running it, it would pop out of 5th constantly. I had to hold it there. Try smoking and driving like that with no power steering! I hated it. I paid $350 cash money for another with 75k on it and it's been doing fine n/a. Clutch is slipping but that's only because the rear main is leaking. Sooo many oil leaks. Cam sensor seal, ---- composite oem headgasket, oil pan gasket....... All being replaced soon.

I've heard the cast pistons dont last too long if you boost often. I probably will order new pistons and rings. Yes, cast. They're cheap. Granted i'd rather boost on a fresh hone, ring, pistons and bearings than ---- that's got 120,XXX miles on it. The head is in great shape though.

I live really close to charlotte. Trust me, somebody will buy the car boosted and pay what i'm asking. 9 times out of 10, people dont know what the hell their buying. Eclipse turbo, hks, turbonetics, garrett..... Enough said. Somebody will buy it. I'll probably make money off the car.

Turbo kit: $1000(ish)
Car: $1500
GST wheels: Free
Shocks and springs: $100
Deck: $20
Speakers: $20
Tires: $300
Trans: $350
Basic maint: I dunno. Probably close to $200.....

So i've spent about $3k total on the project since may of last year. I'm probably going to end up putting $1200 to $1500 more in her and then she's going to have to find a new home.

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Old 07-30-2008, 05:33 PM
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Almost done.

I spun a rod bearing about 5 months ago, rebuilt her and got back on the turbo track. ---- that sidemount and ---- a bosch bov. Traded a 38mm turbonetics evo gate for an hks knockoff bov and pipe and picked up a starion intercooler cheap on here.
Getting that sidemount to work was more trouble than it was worth so i ditched it and had my end tanks modified to flow better on the starion/conquest jawn.

My custom oil feeds and drains are done. Took a couple of weeks back and forth to 4 stores getting what i needed. Went with a tuner toys/steathmode drain fitting with a 3/8 hose barb, vatozone braided fuel line for the drain, compression fittings and brakeline on my ebay feed line and a fuckload of teflon tape later.......

Turbo is clocked. ---- that snap ring. My drain line is pointed in a 30 degree downward angle so it's good enough. If i blow oil in the downpipe, ---- it. It's a $50 turbo.

Boost gauge is installed (faze cheapy from vatozone, wally 255 is in.

I was going to put my fmu in today but something came up.....

My starion intercooler with new outlets made it's way to georgia and i'm told i'll get it back thursday.

Downpipe is done-ish. I used 2.25" for my internal wastegate dump and my downpipe adapter. I'll clamp the bitch to my stock downpipe with some flex section until i go to the muffler shop..... I'll be picking that up today or thursday.

I had my fcd installed but it was ------- with my car n/a and was sending some crazy ---- to my ecu. I used 200 miles worth of fuel in less than 100. I took it off for now. I'll probably see if i hit fuel cut first before putting it back on and re-calibrating it.

So, i'm pretty much done at the moment until i get my ---- back and put some 93 in my tank.

I'm going to see how it pulls at 7 psi and then crack it up to 10 and then 12. I should be able to run 12 with 93 octane without knocking or killing my ringlands. 12psi on a t25 with flat top higher cr neon pistons should have me at around the 230-240whp mark. Stock gst's run 14ish but have lower cr so they make less power at that level....if anyone has any q's of why my car will make more hp than a stock gst.

Pics later.
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2GeclipseRST
12psi on a t25 with flat top higher cr neon pistons should have me at around the 230-240whp mark. Stock gst's run 14ish but have lower cr so they make less power at that level....if anyone has any q's of why my car will make more hp than a stock gst.

Pics later.
The overall design of a 4g63 7bolt is fundementally different than a 420a. You cant use a gst as a basis for your power goals. Much less the compression ratio of the motor. Your compressor limited with the t25, regardless of the boost level, it can only make so much hp.

It wont last long at those levels without tuning. Ring lands will own you. I assume youve had this motor apart or seen one apart? The stock pistons have shitty ring lands.

Good luck with it though. I hate to see anyone's ---- blown up.
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