Econo-Box

No its because thats what you are supposed to do. ------ noob. Now the next post out of you better have ******* in it cause its Wednesday bitches.

AWDstylez

Z06's are ---- piles. How are your cracked rotors doing? GM quality at its best again.

Here's hoping for an 11.0L V8 in next year's car that makes 550hp. Wow wouldn't that be SICK!!!!!!! It'd have sooooo much torque!!! Because torque actually matters omgomgomgmogmgozmomomgo!!!!

Econo-Box

Damn that certainly tops anything jonny has ever said as being the dumbest ---- I ever heard.

I searched for 15 minutes before I found the first relevant post or webpage or whatever. second response after dude posts about his cracked rotors:

The cracks look pretty typical for a cross-drilled rotor, my GT3 rotors are doing the same thing. I would suggest going to a slotted rotor rather than cross-drilled to avoid the issue in the future.

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showt...=rotor+failure

So are Porshe GT3's pieces of ---- too cause somebodys rotors failed once when auto-X'ing the ---- out of them?

Hitchhikkr

Same engine thats in the Ford GT minus the stupidcharger. The 4v ford motors dont seem to be that impressive without the boost cranked up. Too bad the 03-04 supercharged cobras are so damn heavy. They make the Supra look light as a feather. :1

351w+ GT45R+89 mustang trunk car= Ownage.

Early Gt3 rotors are pieces of ----. I changed like 50 of those damn things when they first came out. Do you have the ceramics or steel rotors?
The problem with the ceramics is if you race them with the street pads they come with, you will kill the rotors in 10000 miles. And those things arent cheap.
Another problem that porsche doesnt tell you is that the ceramics will boil the brake fluid faster than the steel rotors will.
The only thing that makes the ceramics better on a gt3 is the diameter and less unsprung weight. Otherwise their damn near worthless. Ill take cross drilled steelies any day of the week.

Econo-Box

I was quoting a dude from that link that was saying that. My point was most "Performance" cars have issues like that but they are hardly something that makes the car worthless. saying that because a single digit percentage of Z06 Vettes have rotor issues it makes it a shitty car is really retarted.

I cant believe that comment came from a DSM owner? Im not too sure how to respond :1

(nice job on the custom names for the last few smileys. I just noticed that, laughed and promptly soiled myself.)

fe3tcourier

all (steel) rotors will crack if flogged suitably hard. end of story.

i personally wouldnt bother using cross drilled or slotted again. if you just use good pads that dont gas like a bitch at low temps, then you dont need em.

mintex m1166 is what i use, its good ----, and works to 700C whatever that is in F...

bendix/axis ultimates are great street pads, but will crumble near the end of their life if pushed really hard. i never had them fade though.

truth is, race cars dont really use cross drilling. its a style thing. real hypo rotors use little whisked slots ... google image search...

i failed. basically lots of little C shapes scattered intelligently across them...

AWDstylez

You're ------- retarded. The point was that GM sucks ***. Not that nearly all Z06's have their rotors crack due to normal street driving (which is just a side issue).


Exactly. That sweet new turbo kit that you bought for $78 + $98 shipping is really sweet for about five minutes until the turbo wheels explode, the manifold cracks in half, and the wastegate diaphragm melts. Sort of like that new Z06 you pick up for real cheap. Luckily for the 55-65 year old grandfathers that make up 90% of the buyers they'll never put enough miles on it (usually takes about 1,000 miles with most GM products before they need a new longblock and transmission) to have any issues.

J-SMITH69

complete ignorance.

hes been beaten by too many GM cars.

chevy small block = most produced and widely used engine ever made. most prestigious racing platform, winning more races than anyother engine.

been used in cars, trucks, planes, boats, RVs, industrial equip, generators, and about a million other things.

yes torque doesn't matter, thats why you lose to everything the new mustangs have that motor in them, except its 3 valve...

all the 4 valve motors are junk next to a LSx motor.

"as with almost all 4 valve designs, its got a broader power band than a 2 valve engine of the same displacement."

this line is irrelevant. a 5.0 ferrari motor has 500hp and a torque curve like a supra, a 5.0HO ford motor has 225hp and a much broader powerband and more torque, but less than half the hp...

fe3tcourier

bs, ------ of power is all that matters. see that dyno thread of leed to find a torque curve that would win most any race assuming all else was equal.

and not as good...

and you are calling that other guy ignorant. that is the height of ignorance... i cant even believe that you typed it! pull your ------- head in!

back this up with dyno graphs thanks! i strongly doubt that an engine with variable induction and vvt running out its **** has a week bottom end. my girls run of the mill black top 4age has a decently flatish torque curve with a rudimentary on off vvt system on the intake side only.

once again, with all else held constant 4 valves are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much much much much better than 2 or 3.

you might be surprised to learn that 5 isnt as good as 4, but that the blacktop 5v/cyl head IS better than the 16v head. why? included valve angle, something that the ls7 has got right. they know their ----, but for packaging and weight and "we have so much capacity and are selling to a bunch of head in hole old bastards" reasons, they dont care and make em like that anyway.

at least ford is moving with the times.

ffs, say something worthwhile here will you.

Econo-Box

what the ---- are you talking about? are you not reading what your posting or something?....So since I passed 12th grade english Im gonna go ahead and say that your statement there pretty much says "Z06 sucks how are the rotors?" or ie: "GM sucks at quality their rotors break a lot or often" so the rotors weren't your point? is that what your saying? if so then why bring them up. sounds to me like ricer talk. (false random claims with absolutly no point to the arguement)

speaking of how parts are doing,...hows your crankwalk? lets see what lasts longer, your bearings or the rotors on a Z06