Full-ripoff gets pwn3d on National TV - SPEED CHANNEL NOW GGG
04-06-2006, 10:43 AM
#52
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Re: Full-ripoff gets pwn3d on National TV - SPEED CHANNEL NOW GGG
Originally Posted by ComputerJLT
let me tell you a story.
I used to work at RadioShack.. worst job ever.. There we sold a BUNCH of different cables/connectors/converters/adapters/etc. Just about every part we sold we had a good better best version. The "best" was a name brand gold plated fancy packaged over advertised hyped up device that did something simple like get a signal from a VCR to a TV. the "better" had all the features of the best but no hype packaging or extra bullshit. The "good" got the job done.
Three levels of "quality" selling for three VERY different prices, for example a 6' rca patch cable, best version went for nearly FIFTY DOLLARS; "better" went for about $15-20 and the good went for $6. Unless you were in a laboratory you could not tell the three cables apart but your wallet sure as ---- could.
We had to sell the "best" ones because it's cost is mostly proffit; nearly 90% on cables and accessories like that. Stupid people bought into the hype and thought they were somehow better than the other cables... Other sensible people bought the mid or low level cables and were just as satisfied. See where i'm going with this.
Full-ripoff is no different, they have the "best" product, it gets the job done; has name recognition that gives all the pay2play ricers get their genital enlargement and is no doubt a quality kit. They have all the fancy packaging, tons of hype and more propaganda than 1950s America saying it's the best and your ***** will fall off if you dont buy f-r. Its a simple turbocharger kit. Turns wasted exhaust energy into air being forced into an internal combustion engine. Their kits cost ~ $5k while a DIY kit costs a FRACTION of that; and i'm not talking about an HF mani and 14b. there is NO reason to pay THAT MUCH for a kit when you could piece one together for half or less.
Good flowing manifold + wastegate + big turbo + intercooler + plumbing = turbo kit
Now it is true there are some awful products out there and some horribly performing pieces on the market but i'm not talking about those so dont even get on that wagon.
/edit: and for those of you wondering why I always rag on full-ripoff its because they are a ripoff. I know their product is quality and they probably stand behind it; for the price they ------- better THEN SOME. The reason I hate them so much is the same reason I hated selling the "best" at radio-shack. I was LYING to people saying they NEEDED that and that if they DIDNT have it bad things would happen. That wears at your soul when you're dishonest like that. You dont need a $5k turbo kit put together with some plumbing joints; a few flanges; some off the shelf parts and some stainless pipe with purdy welds when you're boosting your shop swapped stock *** GSR in an EG hatch :1 </hondatechbandwagonsetup>
I used to work at RadioShack.. worst job ever.. There we sold a BUNCH of different cables/connectors/converters/adapters/etc. Just about every part we sold we had a good better best version. The "best" was a name brand gold plated fancy packaged over advertised hyped up device that did something simple like get a signal from a VCR to a TV. the "better" had all the features of the best but no hype packaging or extra bullshit. The "good" got the job done.
Three levels of "quality" selling for three VERY different prices, for example a 6' rca patch cable, best version went for nearly FIFTY DOLLARS; "better" went for about $15-20 and the good went for $6. Unless you were in a laboratory you could not tell the three cables apart but your wallet sure as ---- could.
We had to sell the "best" ones because it's cost is mostly proffit; nearly 90% on cables and accessories like that. Stupid people bought into the hype and thought they were somehow better than the other cables... Other sensible people bought the mid or low level cables and were just as satisfied. See where i'm going with this.
Full-ripoff is no different, they have the "best" product, it gets the job done; has name recognition that gives all the pay2play ricers get their genital enlargement and is no doubt a quality kit. They have all the fancy packaging, tons of hype and more propaganda than 1950s America saying it's the best and your ***** will fall off if you dont buy f-r. Its a simple turbocharger kit. Turns wasted exhaust energy into air being forced into an internal combustion engine. Their kits cost ~ $5k while a DIY kit costs a FRACTION of that; and i'm not talking about an HF mani and 14b. there is NO reason to pay THAT MUCH for a kit when you could piece one together for half or less.
Good flowing manifold + wastegate + big turbo + intercooler + plumbing = turbo kit
Now it is true there are some awful products out there and some horribly performing pieces on the market but i'm not talking about those so dont even get on that wagon.
/edit: and for those of you wondering why I always rag on full-ripoff its because they are a ripoff. I know their product is quality and they probably stand behind it; for the price they ------- better THEN SOME. The reason I hate them so much is the same reason I hated selling the "best" at radio-shack. I was LYING to people saying they NEEDED that and that if they DIDNT have it bad things would happen. That wears at your soul when you're dishonest like that. You dont need a $5k turbo kit put together with some plumbing joints; a few flanges; some off the shelf parts and some stainless pipe with purdy welds when you're boosting your shop swapped stock *** GSR in an EG hatch :1 </hondatechbandwagonsetup>
04-06-2006, 10:50 AM
#53
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Re: Full-ripoff gets pwn3d on National TV - SPEED CHANNEL NOW GGG
Werd, oh and pinks is not the new hotness. All the ------- cars they bring on there now fall apart and most of them they put together in a week just to race the ----.
04-06-2006, 11:00 AM
#54
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Re: Full-ripoff gets pwn3d on National TV - SPEED CHANNEL NOW GGG
Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
lol like three times faster. if you wanna measure the displacement of both motors the SAME way it would be a 2.6 versus a 1.6
04-06-2006, 12:07 PM
#55
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Join Date: May 2005
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Re: Full-ripoff gets pwn3d on National TV - SPEED CHANNEL NOW GGG
The rotors spin at 1/3 the speed of the shaft. That is why they can rev up so much. 9000rpms = 3000rpm rotor speed.
Also the "1.3" is really a 2.6 liter motor. The reason why is that the idiots who claim 1.3 only measured the displacement while the rotor is in there. That is like measuring the displacement of a piston engine with the pistons in there, DER DER DER, half the size. :1
Also the "1.3" is really a 2.6 liter motor. The reason why is that the idiots who claim 1.3 only measured the displacement while the rotor is in there. That is like measuring the displacement of a piston engine with the pistons in there, DER DER DER, half the size. :1
04-06-2006, 04:50 PM
#56
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Re: Full-ripoff gets pwn3d on National TV - SPEED CHANNEL NOW GGG
Some of the full race stuff doesn't do anything better than a similar item (couplers with full race printed on them), but they don't skimp on even the cheap parts that you *could* skimp on.
Of course a diy'er can put a kit together cheaper, but the other half of the cost is the service of the kit. The service of a company that can put it all together for you, and you don't have to think about anything for yourself.
Guidelines to making money for any company:
-You have the wholesale price on lock (nobody can buy it as cheap as you)
-You have a dumb customer (customer doesn't know what they need)
-YOu have a lazy customer (customer is too lazy or not willing to research where to get it cheaper)
-You have a rich customer (really doesn't care how much it is, only that it's the best. The lazy and dumb thing also usuallly apply.)
There you go.
Of course a diy'er can put a kit together cheaper, but the other half of the cost is the service of the kit. The service of a company that can put it all together for you, and you don't have to think about anything for yourself.
Guidelines to making money for any company:
-You have the wholesale price on lock (nobody can buy it as cheap as you)
-You have a dumb customer (customer doesn't know what they need)
-YOu have a lazy customer (customer is too lazy or not willing to research where to get it cheaper)
-You have a rich customer (really doesn't care how much it is, only that it's the best. The lazy and dumb thing also usuallly apply.)
There you go.
04-07-2006, 11:27 AM
#58
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Re: Full-ripoff gets pwn3d on National TV - SPEED CHANNEL NOW GGG
for anyone that wants to download the eppisode, go here.
http://members.***.net/tatsuko/pinks...de.wmv.torrent
http://members.***.net/tatsuko/pinks...de.wmv.torrent
04-07-2006, 11:34 AM
#59
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Re: Full-ripoff gets pwn3d on National TV - SPEED CHANNEL NOW GGG
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Some of the full race stuff doesn't do anything better than a similar item (couplers with full race printed on them), but they don't skimp on even the cheap parts that you *could* skimp on.
