A foiled plot in Britain may signal chilling tactic
02-02-2007, 10:18 PM
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Re: A foiled plot in Britain may signal chilling tactic
Originally Posted by mike94se
No, we need to arm the Isreals. The Jews have had their borders being attacked, and they will melt all of the Middle East, even themselves. We just then pull out, and wait for them to call us back in.
Course that won't happen, they'll just say we backed out and left them to die
Course that won't happen, they'll just say we backed out and left them to die
Btw, Isreal is armed. Its one of the strongest militaries in the world, numb nuts. And our intelligence agencies could learn a thing or two from them. When they get attacked by a suicide bomber, they find out what cell they are from and bomb the ---- outta every damn person behind it that they can find. In fact, when their athletes were killed during the olympics they hunted the perps down for I think it was over 10 years. Only one guy got away. Those Jews know how to ---- someone up. We should seriously model our anti-terrorist policies after theirs.
02-02-2007, 11:18 PM
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Re: A foiled plot in Britain may signal chilling tactic
Isreali fighter pilots are second to none as well. And like I said before most of our pre 9/11 weapons and tactics were modeled after an all out war with Russia. So basically all we had were hammers at the time so we needed to go find something we could nail.
A hammer doesn't help a whole lot when your looking for a needle in a hay stack.
A hammer doesn't help a whole lot when your looking for a needle in a hay stack.
02-03-2007, 03:24 PM
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Re: A foiled plot in Britain may signal chilling tactic
we are doing the right thing in iraq. the media paints a picture otherwise which sickens me. Clintons News Network drives me insane which is why i stick away from it as much as possible
anyone heard of georges sada? one of saddams most trusted generals? pick up his book that recently came out. it reveals a lot of things that never came out publicly. for example, he personally knew the pilots that flew wmd's out of iraq before the us invasion. he was one of the most trusted advisors saddam had.
what do you hear more of? the stories of the thousands of iraqi's who thank US troops daily for being there? or the stories of iraqi insurgents (most of whom aren't actually iraqi but hadji's who hopped into the country) killing more people with more carbombs and suicide bombings and whatnot.
does everyone forget how saddam ran iraq before we took over? no one seems to care to remember how he killed anyone who opposed him? how people were hung in the streets, had their tongues cut out, how family members and families just dissapeared? anyone take a deeper look into how messed up his own family was and what they did to the people?
and, i hate this arguement but its true, because it shows two points in one. how many times saddam blatantly ignored the UN. i hate thsi because i also hate the worthless UN, who hasn't done anything productive in over 25 years.
its not like we went and invaded strawberry shortcake land like liberals like to pretend.
ok say its for oil. why are we going to complain since gas may possibly be cheaper for us anyways. if we really wanted to drop prices, we'd bypass opec and start drilling alaska. not to mention canada has the largest oil reserves in the world, once its cost effective to get it out of the sand that is.
regardless of crude prices, gas companies still are raking in fortunes. look at their profit margins over the last 5 years. regardless of price of crude, gas prices rose (which are finally falling) and the gasoline companies still had profit increases. gas still comes through them who will set the prices as they will. if every gasoline company decided tomorrow to nationally set the price to 5.00 a gallon. what would we do? boycott? maybe. will it work? no. why? our country, hell our world, depends on gasoline too heavily. how many people commute how many miles a day to get to and from work. how many miles do truckers cover to get ---- we need to us. we will pay whatever the price because for now we depend on it.
haha someone says we should arm the isrealis? what do you think we've been doing is wwII. how do you think they even got to where they are today if we hadn't been supporting for the last few decades.
haha, poor russia, thats all there really is to say about that part of the world. a slowly decaying wasteland.
next threats we need to worry about. iran, lead by a man who has specifically and on many accounts threatened "holy" and "nuclear" fire on all infidels and obviously hates the US and basically all white folk. north korea, only because they can sell their dirty nukes, not because of a direct threat to us but how they indirectly could. saudi arabia, because their friendship is only a veil to their deep seated hatred of anyone that isn't them, especially the US (which is why i love the irony in having a military base there). and eventually, china. with a third of the worlds population, whom for the majority may be dirt cheap, they have the manpower to produce whatever they may need. they are our greatest ally yet eventually i see them becoming our worst enemy.
sorry for the long post. at least i used paragraphs
anyone heard of georges sada? one of saddams most trusted generals? pick up his book that recently came out. it reveals a lot of things that never came out publicly. for example, he personally knew the pilots that flew wmd's out of iraq before the us invasion. he was one of the most trusted advisors saddam had.
what do you hear more of? the stories of the thousands of iraqi's who thank US troops daily for being there? or the stories of iraqi insurgents (most of whom aren't actually iraqi but hadji's who hopped into the country) killing more people with more carbombs and suicide bombings and whatnot.
does everyone forget how saddam ran iraq before we took over? no one seems to care to remember how he killed anyone who opposed him? how people were hung in the streets, had their tongues cut out, how family members and families just dissapeared? anyone take a deeper look into how messed up his own family was and what they did to the people?
and, i hate this arguement but its true, because it shows two points in one. how many times saddam blatantly ignored the UN. i hate thsi because i also hate the worthless UN, who hasn't done anything productive in over 25 years.
its not like we went and invaded strawberry shortcake land like liberals like to pretend.
ok say its for oil. why are we going to complain since gas may possibly be cheaper for us anyways. if we really wanted to drop prices, we'd bypass opec and start drilling alaska. not to mention canada has the largest oil reserves in the world, once its cost effective to get it out of the sand that is.
regardless of crude prices, gas companies still are raking in fortunes. look at their profit margins over the last 5 years. regardless of price of crude, gas prices rose (which are finally falling) and the gasoline companies still had profit increases. gas still comes through them who will set the prices as they will. if every gasoline company decided tomorrow to nationally set the price to 5.00 a gallon. what would we do? boycott? maybe. will it work? no. why? our country, hell our world, depends on gasoline too heavily. how many people commute how many miles a day to get to and from work. how many miles do truckers cover to get ---- we need to us. we will pay whatever the price because for now we depend on it.
haha someone says we should arm the isrealis? what do you think we've been doing is wwII. how do you think they even got to where they are today if we hadn't been supporting for the last few decades.
haha, poor russia, thats all there really is to say about that part of the world. a slowly decaying wasteland.
next threats we need to worry about. iran, lead by a man who has specifically and on many accounts threatened "holy" and "nuclear" fire on all infidels and obviously hates the US and basically all white folk. north korea, only because they can sell their dirty nukes, not because of a direct threat to us but how they indirectly could. saudi arabia, because their friendship is only a veil to their deep seated hatred of anyone that isn't them, especially the US (which is why i love the irony in having a military base there). and eventually, china. with a third of the worlds population, whom for the majority may be dirt cheap, they have the manpower to produce whatever they may need. they are our greatest ally yet eventually i see them becoming our worst enemy.
sorry for the long post. at least i used paragraphs
02-03-2007, 04:11 PM
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Re: A foiled plot in Britain may signal chilling tactic
right well, who do you think put saddam in power? who helped the mujahideen fight the russians and actually created al qaeda ? the united states did.
so why are we in afganstan/iraq and maybe soon to be in iran/syria/north korea/pakistan or any other country we cn find a good excuse to invade?
i doubt many people would protest this war if it was for a valid cause, theres quite a few investigations going on right now revealing that dick cheney manipulated intelligence to favor an iraq invasion, and that he and others have lied to investigators and the public. so why should we believe any of what mr bush says now? hell he didn't even tell the truth about how many more troops the really plan on surging over there, because someone forgot that 21,500 combat troops need 20,000 support personnel.
but none of this ---- is new, read up on vietnam and watergate, the similarities are disturbing.
so why are we in afganstan/iraq and maybe soon to be in iran/syria/north korea/pakistan or any other country we cn find a good excuse to invade?
i doubt many people would protest this war if it was for a valid cause, theres quite a few investigations going on right now revealing that dick cheney manipulated intelligence to favor an iraq invasion, and that he and others have lied to investigators and the public. so why should we believe any of what mr bush says now? hell he didn't even tell the truth about how many more troops the really plan on surging over there, because someone forgot that 21,500 combat troops need 20,000 support personnel.
but none of this ---- is new, read up on vietnam and watergate, the similarities are disturbing.
02-03-2007, 06:21 PM
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Re: A foiled plot in Britain may signal chilling tactic
Originally Posted by signorelli21
right well, who do you think put saddam in power? who helped the mujahideen fight the russians and actually created al qaeda ? the united states did.
so why are we in afganstan/iraq and maybe soon to be in iran/syria/north korea/pakistan or any other country we cn find a good excuse to invade?
i doubt many people would protest this war if it was for a valid cause, theres quite a few investigations going on right now revealing that dick cheney manipulated intelligence to favor an iraq invasion, and that he and others have lied to investigators and the public. so why should we believe any of what mr bush says now? hell he didn't even tell the truth about how many more troops the really plan on surging over there, because someone forgot that 21,500 combat troops need 20,000 support personnel.
but none of this ---- is new, read up on vietnam and watergate, the similarities are disturbing.
so why are we in afganstan/iraq and maybe soon to be in iran/syria/north korea/pakistan or any other country we cn find a good excuse to invade?
i doubt many people would protest this war if it was for a valid cause, theres quite a few investigations going on right now revealing that dick cheney manipulated intelligence to favor an iraq invasion, and that he and others have lied to investigators and the public. so why should we believe any of what mr bush says now? hell he didn't even tell the truth about how many more troops the really plan on surging over there, because someone forgot that 21,500 combat troops need 20,000 support personnel.
but none of this ---- is new, read up on vietnam and watergate, the similarities are disturbing.
02-03-2007, 07:13 PM
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Re: A foiled plot in Britain may signal chilling tactic
why so you can try and discredit them?
its pretty easy to do a google search or go to the library and find quite a few books on all these subjects, but since you are the one who started this thread i think it would be more interesting if you explained your position.
but since you asked heres a few:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/51/217.html
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/09.1...wk.us.iraq.htm
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...11_challenged/
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/200...ert_action.php
http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0703nj1.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/...eref=rss_world
its pretty easy to do a google search or go to the library and find quite a few books on all these subjects, but since you are the one who started this thread i think it would be more interesting if you explained your position.
but since you asked heres a few:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/51/217.html
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/09.1...wk.us.iraq.htm
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...11_challenged/
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/200...ert_action.php
http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0703nj1.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/...eref=rss_world
