Father & Son build begins
#1
Father & Son build begins
First off I know you all like pictures but they will have to wait, besides you know what parts look like.
For the last year we have been gathering parts for this build and finally decided to sleeve the block (b16a3) and got 1 hell of a deal through what might be our sponcer in the future. Anyways he told GE what we are doing and we wanted the gorilla sleeves, good for up to 1000hp. Well I got the block back last night and told my son they put in the wrong ones ---- so I get on the phone and call the shop to bitch and he new why I was calling. To make it short our future sponcer and GE decided to upgrade to the new HD series 60psi, 1300hp at no extra charge!! Can you say bullit proof. We were only looking to run 30psi on this project. anyway here's a small list of parts
the block
edelbrock victor x
eagle rods with cp pistons
skunk stage2 cams w/ spr. & titam retainers
D & h 75-69 TB
pte 1000cc injectors
Turbo is still undecided--sc61 or gt35-40
3" piping
s4c ITR LSD
etd traction bar
moroso oil pan
comp. clutch stg4
and a few other things, al this will run under hondata s300 w/ 2 step
Hopefully we should have it up and running within the next 2 months if there are no setbacks. But I will have PICS of the parts and build and also a write up when all done
lmk what you think Mark
ps this is going into a 89 HB
For the last year we have been gathering parts for this build and finally decided to sleeve the block (b16a3) and got 1 hell of a deal through what might be our sponcer in the future. Anyways he told GE what we are doing and we wanted the gorilla sleeves, good for up to 1000hp. Well I got the block back last night and told my son they put in the wrong ones ---- so I get on the phone and call the shop to bitch and he new why I was calling. To make it short our future sponcer and GE decided to upgrade to the new HD series 60psi, 1300hp at no extra charge!! Can you say bullit proof. We were only looking to run 30psi on this project. anyway here's a small list of parts
the block
edelbrock victor x
eagle rods with cp pistons
skunk stage2 cams w/ spr. & titam retainers
D & h 75-69 TB
pte 1000cc injectors
Turbo is still undecided--sc61 or gt35-40
3" piping
s4c ITR LSD
etd traction bar
moroso oil pan
comp. clutch stg4
and a few other things, al this will run under hondata s300 w/ 2 step
Hopefully we should have it up and running within the next 2 months if there are no setbacks. But I will have PICS of the parts and build and also a write up when all done
lmk what you think Mark
ps this is going into a 89 HB
#7
Re: Father & Son build begins
well he bought bought the skunk2's and ran them...then got the buddy club stage 3's...brand new...paid like a grand for them or something....put them in a went for a tune and made less then the skunk2's...
#9
Re: Father & Son build begins
buddy club is confusing with them naming there starting mild camshaft the spec 3 the spec 4 is what your friend should have bought to be even a close comparison to the skunk2 stg2s. (gotta love skunks site for posting them vs. the buddyclub cams and only showing the upper rpms of the dyno well theres too much variablility anyways)
from the websites:
SPEC IIIPLUS
B18C1 Engine
$640.00
TIMING DURATION VALVE LIFT VALVE CLEARANCE
1mm OPEN 1mm OPEN
INLET 25° BTDC 45° ABDC 296° 11.4mm 0.008
1mm OPEN 1mm OPEN
EXHAUST 45° BBDC 20° ATDC 290° 11.8mm 0.009
SPEC IV
B18C1 Engine
$688.00
TIMING DURATION VALVE LIFT VALVE CLEARANCE
1mm OPEN 1mm OPEN
INLET 37° BTDC 49° ABDC 306° 12.3mm 0.007
1mm OPEN 1mm OPEN
EXHAUST 61° BBDC 21° ATDC 302° 11.8mm 0.008
SKUNK2
Stage I (best price $712.50/pr, retail $797/pr, CARB Exempt pending)
INTAKE lift- 11.58 mm, duration 252 @ 1mm
EXHAUST lift - 10.8 mm, duration 249 @1mm
Stage II (Not CARB Exempt, $700-725/pr, retail $849/pr)
INTAKE lift- 12.3 mm, duration 266 @ 1mm
EXHAUST lift - 11.8 mm, duration 262 @ 1mm
thats all i could find on a quick search of websites hope thats helpfull to someone.
edited: had proseries stg1s listed at first
from the websites:
SPEC IIIPLUS
B18C1 Engine
$640.00
TIMING DURATION VALVE LIFT VALVE CLEARANCE
1mm OPEN 1mm OPEN
INLET 25° BTDC 45° ABDC 296° 11.4mm 0.008
1mm OPEN 1mm OPEN
EXHAUST 45° BBDC 20° ATDC 290° 11.8mm 0.009
SPEC IV
B18C1 Engine
$688.00
TIMING DURATION VALVE LIFT VALVE CLEARANCE
1mm OPEN 1mm OPEN
INLET 37° BTDC 49° ABDC 306° 12.3mm 0.007
1mm OPEN 1mm OPEN
EXHAUST 61° BBDC 21° ATDC 302° 11.8mm 0.008
SKUNK2
Stage I (best price $712.50/pr, retail $797/pr, CARB Exempt pending)
INTAKE lift- 11.58 mm, duration 252 @ 1mm
EXHAUST lift - 10.8 mm, duration 249 @1mm
Stage II (Not CARB Exempt, $700-725/pr, retail $849/pr)
INTAKE lift- 12.3 mm, duration 266 @ 1mm
EXHAUST lift - 11.8 mm, duration 262 @ 1mm
thats all i could find on a quick search of websites hope thats helpfull to someone.
edited: had proseries stg1s listed at first
#10
Re: Father & Son build begins
I rather go with bisimoto, its more of a all motor cam but you can call up and talk to the man himself. Here's a link http://www.bisimoto.com/wst_page17.html . Why not skunk 2, because a friend of mine had one brake while it was idling . Also skunk 2 would not back up the cam they said it had to have been his fault, he is a old timer that his been working on cars since the early 60's. I found this on another site, don't know how true it is but hell it just makes you think.
"Hell, S2 cams are not even made in the US... China baby. By a company most people frown on.... So how is that. If you all knew where the S2 stuff was made you would laugh.... Thats why the S2 and the OBX intake Manifold look identical... Cause they are you Morons.. Made in the same factory.. "
"Hell, S2 cams are not even made in the US... China baby. By a company most people frown on.... So how is that. If you all knew where the S2 stuff was made you would laugh.... Thats why the S2 and the OBX intake Manifold look identical... Cause they are you Morons.. Made in the same factory.. "