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Old 12-22-2007, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by signorelli21
I wasn't really knocking solar power ( i own stock in a company that makes solar panels, lol) I just meant that the electric car has some pretty severe limitations for people that live outside of a big city, and i really don't see them catching on in the united states any more than diesel cars. I agree that nuclear energy is the best solution but since you have the tree huggers and other morons that run and hide at the mention of "terror" and "nuclear" in the same sentence, that tends to hinder progress, even though reactors are ------- pretty much impenetrable (spell?)
I'm not sure I agree. How many people need to travel over 200 miles in a day? Not very many. Either way, if you need to do 400+miles a day, hybrids still seem like a valid solution for those who live in rural areas. As for nuclear, I doubt that small percentage of morons and tree huggers keep stuff from getting done. End result is someone doesn't think it is in their best interest on a higher level. The past has shown that if big business wants to accomplish something, it takes a good bit of effort against their effort to succeed. Morons and tree huggers definitely don't fit the bill.

Tman, where did that math come from? It makes no sense how you can equate mpg to mile range. The only way to get an accurate assessment if its economically worth using an electric car is to figure out how much the electricity costs to give the battery a full charge and then compare it to what a similar gasoline powered car would do.
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Originally Posted by crx2fast
as long as theres gas to burn the electric car is going no where. and when it does take off, the price of electricity will sky rocket.

you can quote me on that.
Your right on that GM had a production electric car back in the 90's. They use to have outlets for them in southern california at for example malls etc. They were something that could of caught on but GM held back and got rid of them



A gmc pickup is where they will make there money not a hippie car. Im surprised gm even started a program to develop it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1
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Your right on that GM had a production electric car back in the 90's. They use to have outlets for them in southern california at for example malls etc. They were something that could of caught on but GM held back and got rid of them

A gmc pickup is where they will make there money not a hippie car. Im surprised gm even started a program to develop it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1
gm stopped making them because they didn't sell...
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I would just buy because their light weight.
I'd slap a nice motor in one of those 1000lbs cars.
Anyway honda has been testing water powered
cars.You would never really run out of water.
There was a guy that traveled from the east coast
to the west coast on 17 gallons of water.Home made car 2 seater.
Then someone killed him....
So there will never be free non polluting
energy, as long as the controllers
of the U.S. energy can make money
off of it.
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gm stopped making them because they didn't sell...
gm would only lease them to people. What you think all the weed smoking liberal master degree holding homo's from california didnt want a electric car?
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Originally Posted by civicsihatch09
I would just buy because their light weight.
I'd slap a nice motor in one of those 1000lbs cars.
Anyway honda has been testing water powered
cars.You would never really run out of water.
There was a guy that traveled from the east coast
to the west coast on 17 gallons of water.Home made car 2 seater.
Then someone killed him....
So there will never be free non polluting
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Originally Posted by chris
gm would only lease them to people. What you think all the weed smoking liberal master degree holding homo's from california didnt want a electric car?
prob because they were still experimental.

because they are phonies and are the first people to drive a 12mpg highway bmw when they get the money
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Originally Posted by Inquisition
Well I'm looking 50 years from now and if the US keeps on this "we must have cleaner air" path, I see more nuclear, solar, and wind power in the future. Also nuclear power has proven to be more environmentally friendly as time continues. It really isn't the liberals that are against it. Look at countries like France who use nuclear power as it's primary source. It's very clean and efficient. The biggest issue in the last 6 years has been the fact that there are "safety issues" with nuclear power plants. Recently reports have come out that nuclear power plants are safer than most government buildings, but still people are uneasy about nuclear power and terrorism.
For the last 5 years, and for the next 15 there is a nuclear boon in the south. Old reactors long shut-down have been, and are being referbed while new ones are being built. Nuclear has room to grow down here, as opposed to msot of the energy that comes from coal fired boilers.


I wouldn't mind an electric car at all... Unfortunately it's not a viable solution for a primary car because i am prone to random road trips, and drive 90-120 miles every day.
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I'm not sure I agree. How many people need to travel over 200 miles in a day? Not very many. Either way, if you need to do 400+miles a day, hybrids still seem like a valid solution for those who live in rural areas. As for nuclear, I doubt that small percentage of morons and tree huggers keep stuff from getting done. End result is someone doesn't think it is in their best interest on a higher level. The past has shown that if big business wants to accomplish something, it takes a good bit of effort against their effort to succeed. Morons and tree huggers definitely don't fit the bill.

Tman, where did that math come from? It makes no sense how you can equate mpg to mile range. The only way to get an accurate assessment if its economically worth using an electric car is to figure out how much the electricity costs to give the battery a full charge and then compare it to what a similar gasoline powered car would do.
I read it from somewerre about the phenix EV suv website, i'll look up exactly where i think it was the faq's

http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/ it's a 40k electric truck thats going to be available this year

I think, (dont quote me on this yet i will repost when i find the page) the millage calculation comes from avg ICE car's efficiency/cost of gasoline gives you the miles per dollar compared to miles per charge of electric car/cost per charge from the grid

Electric motors are much more efficient than gasoline because a lot of the energy from ICE's is released as heat, electric motors waste less energy in the form of heat, they are also much more efficient in low speed drive and go traffic, and acceleration from a stop as opposed to ICE's that's why all your hybrid cars use the electric motors for low speed and switch to gasoline at higher speeds

heres an Electric Vehicle from 10 years ago that shows the efficency compared to gasoline

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/17328.shtml compare that to the current rav4

and about the pollution I also read somewhere, I'll look for exactly were that electric cars pollute 97% less than ICE cars including the pollution at the power plant

the thing i like the most about EV's is that you can charge it anywhere with an extension cord, also you get total control over what you use to power your car, wind power has been getting cheaper the last few years



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The Simpsons quote: "Hello, i'm an electric car. I don't drive very fast or go very far. And if you drive me, people will think you're GAAAY."
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