Originally Posted by random-strike

you keep saying you don't want them invading all aspects of your life... you only want them to invade for firearms? do you think once they do that they will stop? they are invading, in all aspects. as we speak right now.

you sir yourself you don't want a society with NO government. therefore even in your hypothetical scenario, your government exists with SOME controls. so you want them controlling some aspects of your life but not others? you sir are a hypocrit :-P you can't accuse me of being indecisive if i want the government to "control some things and not all" if you want the exact same thing.

the race track is private property, they can apply any rules they want, if they want NHRA rules. its up to them. if i wanted to a build a 6 sec dragster and my own track i could run it there anytime i want. this is completely different than the government forcing me to take a test to buy something. the government does not force people to follow NHRA rules to race a car.

yes you are right. private is different than public property. but it falls in line with your "omg ppl are trying to control my freedoms" rant that you went on earlier. so again, you are ok with some restrictions but not others correct?

the test will always cost money, because it costs government a ton of money to do anything. and they don't do it for free obviously

i said IF everyone had a gun they would be detered and this is true

true. but that scenario will never exist in this society. so playing the what if game does no good. i could say "well, if no gun ever existed...that would deter a criminal from shooting me..lol because there wouldn't be any guns" and again for the record i don't want all guns to be destroyed. i don't even want them banned.

you didn't post any links to any studies.

use google and you'll find the links

dollar v euro conversion is not the only thing.

i believe the GDP for the US is 13.65 trillion. the gdp of germany is 2.5 trillion for comparison
gdp per capita in the US is about 48k
the EU it is aprox 28k
the gdp of the entire EU is 16 trillion, with 500million people
the gdp of the US is 13.65 trillion with 280million people
if you love the european model, move there and be a poor socialist if you want to. leave the US alone


hey you did some research hooray! so what are you trying to prove here? a correlation between size and GDP?

European Union 14,609,836
United States 13,194,700

uh oh, EU has a higher GDP.

EU population is 490mil, US is 303mil

the CIA ranks the US 7th in the gpd per capita in terms of buying value.

so what's your stance on the falling value of the dollar? our terrible economy :-)

"NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The dollar extended its slide Wednesday, hitting a 26-year low against the British pound and approaching an all-time low against the euro"

I don't think i'd be so poor in either place if they're doing so well