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Old 09-11-2007, 12:16 AM
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I was told "wounding" them is a bad idea. They can live to sue you and win in court because if you use your weapon in fear of your life, you don't stop to think "Ok, I'm just going to shoot him in the arm so he might not be able to hurt me". When you fear for your life you think "OMG ---- ---- **** KILL KILL KILL ---- ---- **** OMG!!" They say shoot to kill.
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start shooting and don't stop shooting until your weapon is empty.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:19 AM
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I was told "wounding" them is a bad idea. They can live to sue you and win in court because if you use your weapon in fear of your life, you don't stop to think "Ok, I'm just going to shoot him in the arm so he might not be able to hurt me". When you fear for your life you think "OMG ---- ---- **** KILL KILL KILL ---- ---- **** OMG!!" They say shoot to kill.
I see your point. But really, if someone breaks into my home, I'm not going to kill them (call me a pansy). I've stole ---- on many occasions (mostly from big corporations like walmart or bestbuy), but don't anymore. It's much easier to shoot someone in the leg for breaking into your house than it is to kill them and try to argue your life was threatened. A shot in the limb can be fixed, a death cannot. I shoot in his leg, most jurors would say "well he got shot but he's still alive and did commit a crime, let mr Jorsher free." I shoot them in the head? "is there any evidence that his life was endanger?" As soon as someone dies, you have much more responsibility in proving that your actions were vindicated. If you shoot them in a leg and they heal, who gives a ----? You punished a criminal.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:20 AM
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I see your point. But really, if someone breaks into my home, I'm not going to kill them (call me a pansy). I've stole ---- on many occasions (mostly from big corporations like walmart or bestbuy), but don't anymore. It's much easier to shoot someone in the leg for breaking into your house than it is to kill them and try to argue your life was threatened. A shot in the limb can be fixed, a death cannot. I shoot in his leg, most jurors would say "well he got shot but he's still alive and did commit a crime, let mr Jorsher free." I shoot them in the head? "is there any evidence that his life was endanger?" As soon as someone dies, you have much more responsibility in proving that your actions were vindicated. If you shoot them in a leg and they heal, who gives a ----? You punished a criminal.

And in turn become one for using a deadly weapon on someone.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:23 AM
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And in turn become one for using a deadly weapon on someone.
Unjustified shooting, regardless if a death was involved.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:25 AM
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Unjustified shooting, regardless if a death was involved.
Utilizing the castle doctrine law, it's not an unjustified death.

Again I'll say, you only have to REMOTELY fear for your life, and you can use the castle doctrine law to defend your actions.

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Old 09-11-2007, 12:38 AM
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I've got like 4 rifles and 2 shotguns in the closet feet from my bed. God have mercy on the soul that ever tries to break into this house.
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Utilizing the castle doctrine law, it's not an unjustified death.

Again I'll say, you only have to REMOTELY fear for your life, and you can use the castle doctrine law to defend your actions.

No ----, but if you SHOOT someone, not kill, which means you *might not* have feared for your life enough to unload your gun and kill this person, then it *might be* an unjustified SHOOTING, not DEATH.

I think no matter what happens, you will still face charges and have to prove your actions were justified. A friend of mine pulled a gun on someone who was about to shank him and he got $1000 in fines, anger management and several thousand dollars in lawyer fees. He was defending his life and he was still charged with disorderly conduct. Explain that.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:55 AM
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If they really got technical the guy could get the homeowner for negligence as well. It's kind of a long shot but having the door unlocked and no "no trespassing, private property" signs up doesn't look good in court.

Best way to protect yourself is to keep your ---- locked down 24/7, no trespassing signs, and keeping a gun on or around you at night.

If somebody STILL gets into your house after all of that, all you have to prove is that you didn't use unreasonable force...which isn't hard because with the signs there they KNOW they're not supposed to be there, and the door being locked is another sign. The signs and all that may sound stupid but that ---- can help in court if you ever get into a situation like that.
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:40 AM
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I live in NH and you can have guns in your house unregistered and you can use deadly force for home intrusion. But In MA you have to register everything and cannot use force.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:09 PM
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No ----, but if you SHOOT someone, not kill, which means you *might not* have feared for your life enough to unload your gun and kill this person, then it *might be* an unjustified SHOOTING, not DEATH.

I think no matter what happens, you will still face charges and have to prove your actions were justified. A friend of mine pulled a gun on someone who was about to shank him and he got $1000 in fines, anger management and several thousand dollars in lawyer fees. He was defending his life and he was still charged with disorderly conduct. Explain that.
In public situations it's a bit more difficult to use deadly force like that.

You should know that they teach you in CCW class that if you're going to draw your weapon you better be ready to shoot the person. The person with the knife, was he ever identified and proven that he was trying to use a knife in a hostile manner?

If someone is in my house and I identify myself as having a gun and they don't turn around and run they're getting ------- unloaded on.
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