FooK

Was at the track friday and saturday, don't really have any video of it, was a little busy running my own car, but some interesting stuff.

There's a local shop here called English Racing that are a bunch of DSM oriented guys.

As you might remember, a while back I posted about an HX D16Y5 in a CRX with forged internals that I was doing a little tuning on. So friday I was out there running my Coupe, and these guys were out there.

TJ owns the CRX/HX setup, he was the guy that is more known for having that red 4g63 EG Hatch.
Lucas English was also out there with his Wife's Galant VR-4
Another guy, Justin was out there with his EG/LS-VTEC/SSAutochrome(reweldedx1000) setup.

Anyways, these guys are really big into the whole methanol injection setups. TJ had that CRX into low 12's (12.3 I believe) non intercooled. He came back this weekend with an intercooler in, I added some fuel in the 20-25psi range on his fuel maps, and took his 22psi and higher timing columns from 14* to 18* for him. Results were an 11.7 trapping I want to say 122-123mph peglegging it on big 24" slicks. That was on about 22psi from a big 16g mitsu turbo.

I am really impressed with the methanol stuff. Lucas says it basically makes tuning optional for lack of a better word. Basically you can just put AFR's in a rich 10-11:1 range, and run as much boost and timing as you want all day long (of course this is on the DSM motors). He says on his DSM's he's run as much as 31* of timing at the top of his revs on 25psi from the big 16g on his galant. However, he also said that it doesnt go any faster past 28* so he just runs it there. Last night he managed a 12.07@114 on pump gas with the galant.

Justins ssauto setup is just running an FMU and BTM and bests an 11.50 1/4 mile. Seems he hits the 11.7 range regularly.

Overall I am pretty impressed what they're doing with the methanol injection setups, and have thought about trying it out. I wouldnt go as extreme as they do with all the timing they'll toss to it and such, but I might play around with it a bit.

scottsi

yeah im really considering it aswell, they have some good water alcohol injection setups on ebay, i dunno if they have the same effect as methanol, but i will run more timing with it

mycrx

y put a 4g63 into a eg? whata waste

FooK

this post wasn't dsm specific or biased

beside that, the only reason people preach that DSM's always break is because they are so easy to make fast.

take an eclipse or talon, toss a 16g on it, meth kit, clutch, 25psi and run 11's...of course ---- is gonna start breaking. put a honda with mostly stock parts into 11's, you don't think you're gonna break some drivetrain parts once in a while?

eh, to each his own, the swap isn't terribly hard and fwd and stock turbo it did 11's

PoorMansPorsche

methonal is corosive.. which is cool for race cars cause they have the time and usually the money to tare the engine down regularly.

-CF

Spenser

nukka what.

leed

pretty cool stuff. Sounds like it has its merits, even for a daily driver. Only use it when you need it, and at the track.

Slo_crx1

A 4g63 in a eg? Wonder if one of those can be thrown in an ef hatch...Honda motors up by me are starting to get pretty hard to find for a decent price, but there are a million and one 4g63's around here. Time for research

FooK

well, anythings possibly with enough fabrication

Bone1

Alky motors get torn down just the same as gas motors, IF you have a clue what you are doing. Last Alky motor I worked on hasn't been torn down for 6+ seasons, still runs in the high 8's (8.90 class dial in).............