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Old 01-14-2008, 08:02 PM
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Hmmm...

Wow, that certainly seems a lot like something that happened almost two centuries ago, as far as people disregarding strategy for personal gain, certainly seems like history has a lot to say about our current situation.

If only more than 2% of Americans passed U.S. History Honors in college, well according to college board.
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:09 PM
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Well to be fair with regard to the college board or whatever I took AP US History in high school, so I won't be passing the class in college since I won't even be taking it. That ---- was a junior level class in my high school and most if not all of my friends took it then and have since gone to Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Caltech etc where they also won't be taking the class. I don't mean to really argue with you, it's just sometimes figures like that need to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:43 PM
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Less than 25% of students who took the APUSH test passed.

I passed with a 3, barely. Mostly because it was way more retarded than I thought it would be, the multiple choice was all rather recent and popular topics, aside from the general "Civil War" era questions. They asked us to write an essay about what symbology lies behind the plastic Pink Flamingo in American Culture.

The kids who passed that test received college credit, and therefore passed a college class. They're counted in the statistic.

But that just goes to show that most Americans don't know enough to even pass that test. Which is sad, because they either simply don't know, or don't care to know.

So which is the most universal human trait, fear or laziness?
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:44 PM
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I dont understand what the big deal is here. I can tell you from experience, not front the ship, but flying over the straights and keeping tabs on these small IRGCN boats. This is their attack tactic, its called swarming. They take 5+ small open bowed boats, rigged with explosives and run up on vessels. They have been doing it alot in the last few years and they play "war games" to see what happens with US Navy ships very often. They are getting more aggressive in the last 6 months and coming closer and closer in order to find their boundry. I just came back from over there and that is what i was doing there.

You all need to stop freaking out, i do agree that the government IF something would have happened, would have jumped the gun. BUT they made the rite choice and nothing happened.

Can we drop it? This is in my realm of work, what the iranian's did was a normal IRGCN small boat swarming tactic, they do it to Dhow fishing boats alot and loot the things on their boats. The US navy is very aware of there tactics, and what they do, and this was following the IRGCN tactics to a T. Thats why it was presumed as a threat.

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the president had nothing to do with this incident... or was he onboard those ships?

bush cheney and rummy for old times sake one on each ship... right bush was there and the sand ------s in the boats were CIA...

then condi took some footage of blank ocean, adding sand ------s to it and booom WWIII that didn't happen.

what would stevemode as skipper? you blame everything that ever happens in this world on bush. its really pretty pathetic...

if iran nuked israel you'd say bush did it so we could attack them, if iran did anything you'd say its the USs fault.

btw: the UN "made" israel
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I dont understand what the big deal is here. I can tell you from experience, not front the ship, but flying over the straights and keeping tabs on these small IRGCN boats. This is their attack tactic, its called swarming. They take 5+ small open bowed boats, rigged with explosives and run up on vessels. They have been doing it alot in the last few years and they play "war games" to see what happens with US Navy ships very often. They are getting more aggressive in the last 6 months and coming closer and closer in order to find their boundry. I just came back from over there and that is what i was doing there.

You all need to stop freaking out, i do agree that the government IF something would have happened, would have jumped the gun. BUT they made the rite choice and nothing happened.

Can we drop it? This is in my realm of work, what the iranian's did was a normal IRGCN small boat swarming tactic, they do it to Dhow fishing boats alot and loot the things on their boats. The US navy is very aware of there tactics, and what they do, and this was following the IRGCN tactics to a T. Thats why it was presumed as a threat.

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the arm chair generals won't believe you, someone whos been there and seen it.

it was really bush, cheney, and rummy at the helm steering us into WWIII

steve has been inhailing way too many fumes
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:51 PM
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LOL, i know for a fact that admirals very high up get briefed every other day on what we do there. They have came and visted us in qatar, it is REALLY a big deal and i have been there and seen every aggressive tactic that they do. Thats all im saying. People are blowing this out of proportion. The US held it down and did the rite thing and did not engage though. The rest of the polititions just piecing things together really don't know ---- about the real situation, atleast they arn't talking about everything that really go's on in the straights.
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Thank god for cliffnotes.

I don't have cable or any TV service of any kind so I don't know and most importantly don't give a ---- what they say or do on it.

If I know or don't know WTF is going on, it's not going to make a god damn tiny bit of difference in my life or in the world so ---- it. I'll just sit here na dlisten to you guys bitch to each other about who is right and who is wrong. That's much more entertaining than any television news show.
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:53 PM
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Who said anything about Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the nevus-Republican party?

People who want money for their business want war, simply because war is big business, that's no secret.

Do you honestly believe that someone is dumb enough to sink 2 billion(sic) into fighting an enemy that technically can never be killed?
Stop pretending that people are simply trying to pass the buck to the head and chief, when they simply know that's not the case.

No one, in the history of war, has ever gone to battle without a plan. "We're gonna kill all dem terrorists" is a sick ploy, and belittles their true intention. Fess up Johnny, I know you aren't stupid.
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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
Less than 25% of students who took the APUSH test passed.

I passed with a 3, barely. Mostly because it was way more retarded than I thought it would be, the multiple choice was all rather recent and popular topics, aside from the general "Civil War" era questions. They asked us to write an essay about what symbology lies behind the plastic Pink Flamingo in American Culture.

The kids who passed that test received college credit, and therefore passed a college class. They're counted in the statistic.

But that just goes to show that most Americans don't know enough to even pass that test. Which is sad, because they either simply don't know, or don't care to know.

So which is the most universal human trait, fear or laziness?
Well I got a 4 on both history and gov't so nyah! Just messing with you man. I don't know. Why is it so hard for people to even understand a simple subject like geography? A lot of Americans don't know that ---- either.. which is scary. It's all scary really. I just can't imagine being that ignorant.
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