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Old 12-07-2005, 09:29 PM
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:13 PM
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thats the stupidest thing ive heard in my life. that is almost as bad as someone saying, i wasnt a tweeker cause i never clucked anything.
Actually he's right, opiates are some of the safest drugs you can use. They are dangerous if you overdose but used moderately they don't have any direct adverse affects on the body....of course being addicted to something is adverse in itself
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Kendall said the clinic achieved its goal to cut overdose deaths
I thought overdoses were natures way of fixing things
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:28 PM
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The real goal is to reduce Aids/Hep C etc infections as we have free healthcare here so that costs us alot of money to treat these people.Realistically I dought many people truly care about overdoses and the welfare of addicts.As well this will help keep needles out of the streets,alleys etc and keep addicts booting up out of site.Vacouver has a huge tourism industry and the skid row most addicts live on is in very close proximity to a couple major tourist destinations so walking past some deadbeat leaning against a building with a rig in his arm does not help the image of the city.
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Originally Posted by gurusan
Actually he's right, opiates are some of the safest drugs you can use. They are dangerous if you overdose but used moderately they don't have any direct adverse affects on the body....of course being addicted to something is adverse in itself
not quite... Ethanol is about the safest drug.. you get into the 10s-100s of grams of that and you're cool.... 10-50 mg or cc of opiates and crackhead here i come.

Valium and all of the other benzodiazapines are probably the next safest under ethanol. You can down a bottle of valium and you'll probably make it though...
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:01 AM
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not quite... Ethanol is about the safest drug.. you get into the 10s-100s of grams of that and you're cool.... 10-50 mg or cc of opiates and crackhead here i come.

Valium and all of the other benzodiazapines are probably the next safest under ethanol. You can down a bottle of valium and you'll probably make it though...
WHAT? Are you SERIOUS? Booze is not only carcinogenic, but causes liver, kidney, stomach, and brain damage!
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:22 AM
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WHAT? Are you SERIOUS? Booze is not only carcinogenic, but causes liver, kidney, stomach, and brain damage!
** if you compare drugs gram for gram, ounce for ounce Ethanol is the safest.

That could be about the only way to compare drugs.. as different drugs attack different parts of the body.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:17 PM
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** if you compare drugs gram for gram, ounce for ounce Ethanol is the safest.

That could be about the only way to compare drugs.. as different drugs attack different parts of the body.
Ok...but normally drugs are compared by dosages. For example, a moderate dosage of hydrocodone (25-30 mg) is not damaging by any means, while a moderate dosage of alcohol (5+ drinks depending on weight) weakens the immune system a bit and stresses the liver, stomach, and kidneys.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 90dx
The real goal is to reduce Aids/Hep C etc infections as we have free healthcare here so that costs us alot of money to treat these people.Realistically I dought many people truly care about overdoses and the welfare of addicts.As well this will help keep needles out of the streets,alleys etc and keep addicts booting up out of site.Vacouver has a huge tourism industry and the skid row most addicts live on is in very close proximity to a couple major tourist destinations so walking past some deadbeat leaning against a building with a rig in his arm does not help the image of the city.
Good point. I live in Quebec and no matter where you go in industialized cities there's goona be drug use. I think by opening up these clinics no matter what anybody says I think it's a great move by our government. What about the legalization of prostitution in some cities? Where the girls are checked for s.t.d's and johns have a safe place to go where they're not transmitting any s.t.d's. It's kind of in the same boat as the drug policy. Keep it off the streets and try and keep it clean. Of course there is always going to be your drug addicts and prostitutes on the streets, but at least where trying something new to maybe make things a little bit better.
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** if you compare drugs gram for gram, ounce for ounce Ethanol is the safest.

That could be about the only way to compare drugs.. as different drugs attack different parts of the body.
thats just about the stupidest way to compare things. alright, well since i can drink 2 grams of alcohol, i can take 2 grams of heroin, 2 grams of cocaine, 2 grams of weed, 2 grams of meth, 2 grams of ghb, 2 grams of crack. That has to be the stupidest way to compare anything that anyone has ever came up with. You compare them by dosages as gurusan said. not by weight, you fucktard.
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