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Old 01-09-2008, 08:41 AM
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Shut the ---- up. HMT is about doing cool DIY turbo projects and saving money while doing it but it has also always been about doing cool DIY home projects as well and introducing cool gadgets into people's lives. Don't make me sign into my unbanned almost OG user name and e-slap you around n00b. You are a worthless addition to this site. Stick to getting punched in the face for $150 a fight and leave the technical babble to those equipped with the knowledge of the difference between your and you're.
lol $150 thats funny that is what your mom pays me to rub my ---- all over her **** wile i sing "my milk shake brngs all the boys to the yard"
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:15 AM
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For me, I can install a 160W system with batteries, inverter, and controller for right around $1000 with rebate.
Are you talking about gov't rebate?
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:17 AM
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you want to talk about the future? photovoltaic is NOT the answer. you'll never be able to afford enough panels to power everything in your house.

look into geoexchange/geothermal heating systems. using the earth's constant temperature to heat/cool/provide hot water. i heat/cool to whatever temp i want and provide all the hot water i can use for about 20 bucks a month.

then again, i design and install geothermal systems for a living, i may be biased.
Ya that is the way to roll.I will def setup geothermal if I build a home as a retrofit is costly.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:24 AM
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enlighten me on how much it cost to leave 2 60w bulbs on 24/7. Electricity cost how much per kw/h? 9 cents?
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:08 AM
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What could you possible want to stick this on that draws 1875 watts? I think if I added every light bulb in my house I'd have a hard time getting 1875 watts.
just turn on a microwave.800 to 3000 watts most times.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:23 PM
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enlighten me on how much it cost to leave 2 60w bulbs on 24/7. Electricity cost how much per kw/h? 9 cents?
I pay on average $.15 a kWh and you may pay $.09 so I'll go in the middle at $.12.

120W/1000W * 24 hours * 365 days * $.12 per kWh = $126.14400 a year

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just turn on a microwave.800 to 3000 watts most times.
I don't think this number is valid. I'll test my microwave tonight. I'll pop some popcorn tonight and see how much energy it draws. My guess is something like 500 watts but over the 3.5 minutes it would be 1.75 kW

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Are you talking about gov't rebate?
Yes, NJ offers state government rebates of $5.00 or more per watt or they will pay up to 60% of the bill. Whatever is less. It makes solar VERY affordable.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:34 PM
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Well Im gonna save $20 and not buy this thing.

Common sense is always the best solution.
Turn ---- off when your not using it.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:03 PM
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Yes, NJ offers state government rebates of $5.00 or more per watt or they will pay up to 60% of the bill. Whatever is less. It makes solar VERY affordable.
Anything that takes the gov't to 'assist' to make it possible is a falure. You can't get away from the fact solar cells take a huge amount of energy to make and only trickle it back in small amounts over time, if they ever even produce more than they took to make.

Sounds awsome that you 'break even' after many years and other taxpayers paying for half your ----.
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Ya that is the way to roll.I will def setup geothermal if I build a home as a retrofit is costly.
True. Story. Were doing mostly new construction these days. Homeowners are rolling the cost of the system into their mortgage and the monthly payment is lower than it would be with conventional energy. My next house will be geothermal.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:33 PM
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Anything that takes the gov't to 'assist' to make it possible is a falure. You can't get away from the fact solar cells take a huge amount of energy to make and only trickle it back in small amounts over time, if they ever even produce more than they took to make.

Sounds awsome that you 'break even' after many years and other taxpayers paying for half your ----.
You making a lot of statements with little facts to back up what you are saying. Do you have any evidence on how much energy they take to make? Or a ratio to how much energy they take to make to how much potential energy they will give off?

Also, think of it from a state's perspective. NJ's power plants are already close to capacity. To lower the demand on the power plants they are willing to give an incentive to their tax payers. To build a new power plant the payoff would be years and years later and would require a lot more work and effort. You can install a full solar system, grid tied, blah blah blah, in a couple of weeks. A lot easier than building another power plant. Also I can break even without the NJ rebate, it just makes it a lot easier. If we started spending money on solar panels, companies could invest more in their product, and we would get the product cheaper and likely to be more efficient.
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