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Old 02-08-2004, 01:50 PM
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i believe it was ford that created the first variable valve timing engine, but it flopped and then years later honda did and and was successful with it
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Old 02-08-2004, 02:18 PM
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Heres something new for ya
http://www.vvt.150m.com/
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Old 02-08-2004, 03:43 PM
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i mean Honda makes a VTEC engine in 89 and then about 10 yars later Ford makes the ZETEC engine. vee-tek and zee-tek
and VTEC stands for something. WTF does ZETEC stand for? "zariable engine technology enside car"
zetec is just variable cam timing. it doesn't switch lobes. focus aren't made to be high revving. they dont need to switch lobes, but the cam timing changes help a little.

honda did not invent variable cam timing, or variable lobes. they just made it marketable in a car first.

like hotrex said vortec has nothing to do with variable cam timing.

---- they just had to take the valve cover off a Honda or Acura VTEC engine and copy that ----
i think they'd have to do a little more than that
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:54 PM
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Zetec is the engine family name. This line of engines has been around since the late 70's/early 80's over in Europe. Some Zetec engines have VCT (Variable Cam Timing)which is more of an emissions devise than a performance device as there is no EGR on the VCT equipped engines. VCT is an oil-pressure operated mechanism that allows advancing/retarding on the exhaust cam in my car (Escort ZX2). DOHC, 2.0, 130 hp at the crank from the factory.

But, the Zetec is dying out in favor of the Duratec, so this argument is moot.
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Old 02-08-2004, 06:49 PM
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zetec engines are variable valve timing in the SVT focus. and yes, with in 2 years the zetec will be no longer and will be replaced by the duratec.
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Old 02-08-2004, 09:04 PM
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i could be wrong but i thought porsche was one of the first out with variable valve timing. that was in 1986 i think.
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Old 02-08-2004, 09:48 PM
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well i guess i was wrong and Ford isn't copying Honda.
but i will have to research a little before i completely agree.
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Old 02-08-2004, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KFB
well i guess i was wrong and Ford isn't copying Honda.
but i will have to research a little before i completely agree.
read the 15 posts above and your research is done bitch. you're wrong
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