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Old 02-08-2004, 12:53 PM
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i mean Honda makes a VTEC engine in 89 and then about 10 yars later Ford makes the ZETEC engine. vee-tek and zee-tek
and VTEC stands for something. WTF does ZETEC stand for? "zariable engine technology enside car"
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Old 02-08-2004, 12:57 PM
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ztec is nothing.A friend of mine has a Focus and it means nothing.There is no solenoid,no higher lift,not one thing close to vtec.Im pretty shure "Ecotec" and "vortec" is just the same....a marketing ploy to fool people.
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double overhead cam
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:04 PM
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That is not a hondas trade mark.Some of the first enginnes ever made were "dohc" v6,v8s.Honda just has a way of making that combo(dohc+vtec) work.
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i was at the auto show and a lot of car manf. are stealing the vent style out of the rsx
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:25 PM
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Toyota also makes VVT-i which is like vtec.
I heard somewhere that the first company to make a system (like vtec) was actually BMW.

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Old 02-08-2004, 01:29 PM
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Who "successfully" made it? haha.

It's no secret that for years the domestic guys talked trash and laughed at what we're doing. It got big enough to call it a new market, and now thier all trying to jump on the bandwagon. I guess its just business, but I'd rather have import races than "sport compact" ones.
I feel Random coming in about now to throw out some Dodge numbers......lol
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well the vortec checys are called that because of the swirled intake manifold
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Vtec will hopefully turn into what some of the newer cars are using now where the cams dont just spring a lobe to change the profile but how they are electronically controlled by throttle position to give the best power. Now thats the wave of the future.
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yeah, there are alot of ___-tec engines out there.
the toyota or mitsubishi engines with variable valve timing are cool, but i have read lancer ads where they are like "Mitsubishi engineers figured out how to increase the engine's performance by using 2, not 1, cam profile." - or something close to that. ---- they just had to take the valve cover off a Honda or Acura VTEC engine and copy that ----.
but i just saw a Ford Focus ad and the announcer says "It has a 'zee-tec' engine" and that is very close to 'vee-tec' so non-car people will remember 'vee-tec' being a good thing and hear 'zee-tec' and think "I gotta get THAT car!"
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