Tom-Guy

HP's look is that of vomit smeared on feces.

Mr Hopkins, if you made PRI you would have seen 2/3rds of the geek brigade wielding Thinkpads. There is a reason.

igotnothin

all i use is my HP now. i have a dell desktop but its solly used for **** now a days...

HP Laptop works great for everything i do which includes tunning, and all that fun ----...

sukram

HP is a good brand, i like it

Adam Hopkins

The only tuner I saw with a think pad was Dave himself, and it looked to have been from 98, had zero battery life so it would not run unless it was plugged in, and was cracked because a 240 had run over it. :1

I should have taken notes...

Where can you get a decent priced think pad? I only bought this computer because it was the best bang for the buck at 500 dollars. Hopefully it will get better shortly.

Joseph, Unfortuniately I had to hussle air conditioners all week after finals. I had to make the money so I can pay the rest of this semester off and start on the next. I am sure I missed some great conversations and would have loved to have been there. Did you end up going?

spoon fed

My HP had been gone for almost 3months, the thing is so out of date but its still has warranty until april. I was really hoping they would just give me a new one cause it was badass 3 years ago.

leed

I was just browsing Ebay the other day, and you can score a corporate lease/factory refurb T43 for $300-$450.
T60-61 for $500ish.

My T43 is a trooper. Absolutely no problems over the last 2 years. My previous Thinkpads were just as reliable.

BoostForLife

I sometimes hate HP, but spend 80% of awake time behind one. I have used an HP tablet all school year long. Beat the ---- out of it and still worked great. Still using HP this year and ---- runs good. If you want your HP fast, install an Retail version of XP, (none of that recovery ----) and load up the latest drivers on it. All the recent HP i have worked on been running fast.

Tom-Guy

You are both stupid. If you think your HP is great, I want to see you chuck it onto a concrete floor and still work afterward. I'd even settle for gently sliding it off a dining room table onto some carpet. Or, run it over with a car - as Adam mentioned, blundar's was run over by a 240 and one of my T20s was clipped by an SRT4... both still work. Coincidence? Not really. The Thinkpad site had some cool videos of trucks doing burnouts on T-series Thinkpads, the laptop still works fine after. T30 rimed with ice, snow, leaves where somebody's kid lost it in the ------- woods for a month - clean it off and it powers right up. I can pour a cup of coffee on my T61, it just drains out the bottom, care to replicate that with your HP? How about stand on your laptop? Jump a little? Right.

Here's the challenge, gentlemen. I'll hit your laptops with my laptop. Line up all your buddies with HP, Dell, or other commercial fecal quality fragile plastic machines because only one will survive.

I have to have a machine I can rely on (as opposed to a 3 month downtime) and mine has been dropped, or ripped out of a car/thrown from a table when some fool trips over cables *multiple times*. I've yet to see a HP or the like that could withstand a baseball bat to the back of the screen, which was a design criteria of the T61. For the price I paid for my T61 not only is it a tank, but rolling up on a year old it's still faster and has noticeably more features than anything else in it's pricerange that I see at retail outlets.

PS - no Thinkpad ever made, whether IBM or Lenovo, has been a Vista Brick. That says a lot about the manufacturer, they don't pull shady rip off tactics like HP.

igotnothin

Wouldnt disagree with what you said. I wouldnt hit it or drop it or any of that fun ----. Hell i put in in my backpack so that when tha back pack sits its on top so the books arnt even putting pressure on it.

But for actual functionality of the computer it is great. Runs all i need for school, multimedia, tunning, diagnostic, and even keeptrack of side work hours, and helps with material estimation.. And i only paid $700 for it.

so is it great... yea for what i use it for it is....any more and i wouldnt be useing it to its fullist, and would have just wasted money. sure more durability would be great, but aside from the chance of me wrecking my car from tunning and the laptop flying off the seat, i dont see a situation im in that will ---- it up....

Econo-Box

Despite what Mr. Davis says HP are very good pc's for the private sector. Most of IBM's ---- are for Semi-industrius or commercial lappys. In others words they build IBM's for it cause basically they know all cops plumbers, field techs, contractors all those types are going to be looking at either IBM or Panasonic with the tough book so its teh market they cater to.

HP's are awesome for home PC's but ever brand has a ---- up. If you are using it for Tuning though IBM's are a better choice for heavy duty tasks and will take more abuse.