scottsi

Im thinking about starting my first AR build, anyone built one before or anything. pistol grip, detachable mag, and a 30 rd magazine, CA will love me

BoostMyDB8

My brother builds them. I think he has 2 fully built ones and 2 different upper receivers. The one he has built to shoot .223 is ------- beautiful...I don't know the exact specs (i could find out for you) but he's the kind of guy that goes all in or not in at all. I'll ask him is he has any pics and then i'll post them.

The other built one is chambered for .22LR rounds, just for ------ around since you can pick up 525 rounds of .22 for $10

The extra receivers he has are for 5.56NATO and 7.62x39 rounds.

rsmith2786

Ive been reading a lot and wont be starting my first one until the summer. From what ive read just pick up a complete upper from gunbroker.com. For the lower you need to decide if you want serial numbers or not. For no serial numbers (80% complete lower) i like http://www.ar15plus.com/ if serial numbers are fine i like http://www.khalan.com/shop/default.htm

Putting the lower together is pretty easy. AR-15 Plus has a really good write up. I helped with the machine work for an 80% for my boss last summer and it was really easy. It turned out really nice too (cough fully auto).

scottsi

a full auto one would be badass. I've been reading on these lately and im trying to get started, but I an HMT at heart and therefore am cheap. So I havent bought anything yet because i dont want to be overpaying. But sofar it looks as if the lower is the most difficult part, and the uppoer just bolts right onto the lower when its said and done?

scottsi

the non serial number ones would be nice, but im sure they'd be pretty illegal and they look difficult to build. As far as the serial number ones, i would have to register it correct?

rsmith2786

Once the lower receiver is more than 80% complete it is a "gun" therefore it must be shipped to a licensed dealer. If its less than 80% done than its just a paperweight. As far as legality....at least in Wisconsin it is totally legal to build a gun and since the lower receiver is the "gun" part of a gun thats all you need to make, or complete in the case of an 80%. The rest can be purchased elsewhere. You can also legally own a fully auto weapon in Wisconsin with the right permit and taxes. Same as silencers.

There are take down pins the hold the upper to the lower. Its a very very very easy gun to take down and put together.

Another cool thing about building your own is that you are not limited to the .223. You can make pretty much anything between a .22 and a .50.

rsmith2786

Oh yeah. So if you build it yourself (buy an 80%) then you dont need to register it. If you buy a completed lower you do need to register it.

But then again dont you live in California? If so im pretty sure all of this would be illegal. Are you guys even allowed to own pellet guns?

turborski

you prolly know bout this but jus in case

http://www.ar15.com/forums

scottsi

Seriously, thats how i ------- feel. California sucks. As far as legality, i think im going to go with an 80% completed, just so uncle scammy doesnt know i have an AR. Here we can buy the upper and the lower, and put them together, but the mag must be fixed if the rifle has a pistol grip, so using the monster man grip you can have a detachable magazine. Im going for a bullet button, which means the magazine is technically attached but can be released by use of sticking the tip of a bullet in a hole depressing a button.

MikeJ-2009

Wisconsin is also the state that issues no carry permits, and it is illegal to carry a handgun while hunting deer, but not bear. Even if while deer hunting a bear eats your ------- out.