Any One Have a Roll Cage Or Roll Bar?
01-15-2004, 07:58 PM
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Re:Any One Have a Roll Cage Or Roll Bar?
---- that you live in md (i think) drive to pa to s&w chassis and get one for 149.99 for the 8 point i got the10pt(79 malibu) fits lik a glovehttp://www.swracecars.com/roll%20bars%26cages.html
dont listen to this redneck he will get you killed
dont listen to this redneck he will get you killed
I have a 4 point with a cross bar.Kinda heavy but someday it might save my life .Its made by racerxcesseries.they are a local shop.They mostly make bumpers and roll bars for off road trucks.I paid $350 for it.
01-15-2004, 08:12 PM
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Re:Any One Have a Roll Cage Or Roll Bar?
The rear stays should weld to a plate on the rear strut. You can also weld a bar in from this point straight across. Depending on the geometry of the car you can usually use this as a tie bar for your shoulder straps. This will add protection for a side impact as well as really stiffen the chassis.
-Michael
-Michael
01-15-2004, 08:13 PM
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Re:Any One Have a Roll Cage Or Roll Bar?
It may save your life if and only if there is also a roll hoop. If there is no hoop there is as much or greater chance it will take your life in a rollover.
dont listen to this redneck he will get you killed
annyways this is the one I have
But on mine the center cross bar is removable.
01-16-2004, 09:15 AM
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Re:Any One Have a Roll Cage Or Roll Bar?
Originally Posted by d16z64life
It may save your life if and only if there is also a roll hoop. If there is no hoop there is as much or greater chance it will take your life in a rollover.
A roll hoop and a rollbar are one in the same but a crossbar provides no protection against the roof collapsing.
-Michael
you cannot attatch the harness to the backcross bar the track officials spanked me for it
01-16-2004, 10:04 AM
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Re:Any One Have a Roll Cage Or Roll Bar?
If it's at the proper angle why did they take exception to that? It's not only permitted but a generally accepted practise in rally.
Here are some pics of the car we ran the year before last in the Ontario Regional series.
You can see where the belts anchor...
That would be me hanging on for the ride.
The cage was certified a few years back and would not pass current standards as they've added a lot of extra requirements. This was a former ITR racecar but you can see generally how a cage would be laid out.
-Michael
Here are some pics of the car we ran the year before last in the Ontario Regional series.
You can see where the belts anchor...
That would be me hanging on for the ride.
The cage was certified a few years back and would not pass current standards as they've added a lot of extra requirements. This was a former ITR racecar but you can see generally how a cage would be laid out.
-Michael
01-16-2004, 12:24 PM
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Re:Any One Have a Roll Cage Or Roll Bar?
Come to think of it I think there is a limited length but the actual belt designers do not exceed that length anyway. We have a minimum of 3" wide too so that will affect the stretch.
My instinct says that you probably want a small degree of stretch anyway so it takes up the deacceleration force of the body. Trust me, we rally guys are crazy. Fly down a narrow twisting dirt road with patches of ice and trees brushing each side of the car.
There is a reason why me, the navigator is the only one who knows how fast we're going (no speedo for the driver to get scared). Last Tall Pines we did I think we hit 130km/h. This in an 85hp FWD VW... The open class 4WD 300bhp cars can hit 200 in some spots.
-Michael
My instinct says that you probably want a small degree of stretch anyway so it takes up the deacceleration force of the body. Trust me, we rally guys are crazy. Fly down a narrow twisting dirt road with patches of ice and trees brushing each side of the car.
There is a reason why me, the navigator is the only one who knows how fast we're going (no speedo for the driver to get scared). Last Tall Pines we did I think we hit 130km/h. This in an 85hp FWD VW... The open class 4WD 300bhp cars can hit 200 in some spots.
-Michael
01-16-2004, 11:14 PM
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Re:Any One Have a Roll Cage Or Roll Bar?
Beau, the harness' stretch a lot on impact, and that is definitely the reason it won't pass tech attached at the rear bar.
3" web is the current standard, although 2" web is going to be allowed in 2006 SCCA if used with a HANS device.
As for roll bars, like a good simple 4 point, look to Kirk Racing products in Alabama. I have a full weld in 6 point cage from them, and it is very stout.
3" web is the current standard, although 2" web is going to be allowed in 2006 SCCA if used with a HANS device.
As for roll bars, like a good simple 4 point, look to Kirk Racing products in Alabama. I have a full weld in 6 point cage from them, and it is very stout.
