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Old 09-30-2008, 05:19 PM
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btw your hero evan tanner was religious
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The problem is it's retarded. And I can't vote for someone that thinks something that is retarded like that.

Who do I like? Ron Paul, because he would leave a lot of things up to the states like it should be.

Who is the best choice of those on the ticket? Obama. Because he isn't retarded.
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Being religious is fine. But denying science because "God and the Bible say no" is ------- stupid. A lot of this is coming from my work experience over the summer with Doug, a Bible thumping electrician that loves "Physics" or rather what he calls Physics. Everything is worked out by God. Math is beautiful because God was a mathematician. Wrong. God is an idea created by man. Math is an idea created by man based on the patterns observed in nature. God did not give us divine inspiration to be creative. It doesn't logically make sense.




wtf crap logic is that.
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Originally Posted by TorganFM
The problem is it's retarded. And I can't vote for someone that thinks something that is retarded like that.

Who do I like? Ron Paul, because he would leave a lot of things up to the states like it should be.

Who is the best choice of those on the ticket? Obama. Because he isn't retarded.
obama is more religious then mccain. much much more.

ron paul is very religious.

you are completely clueless, and its really pathetic. obama will further push this country into socialism and tyranny. mclame will do it slower.

how an you say you like ron paul but obama is great too? they are on the opposite side of the political spectrum.

its really unbelievable how ignorant kids like you are.
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TorganFM
Being religious is fine. But denying science because "God and the Bible say no" is ------- stupid. A lot of this is coming from my work experience over the summer with Doug, a Bible thumping electrician that loves "Physics" or rather what he calls Physics. Everything is worked out by God. Math is beautiful because God was a mathematician. Wrong. God is an idea created by man. Math is an idea created by man based on the patterns observed in nature. God did not give us divine inspiration to be creative. It doesn't logically make sense.

For instance... The father, the sun, and the holy ghost. They are all the same. A=B, B=C, C=A. God is all of these things. However it is clearly stated that these things are not God. D=A,B,C but A,B,C!=D. That crap logic does it for me.
thats your opinion.

prove god didn't invent math. prove god didn't invent everything you see around you. maybe god invented the nature that "math came from"

your opinion is your opinion, you are as bad or worse then someone who is hardcore religious.

don't make yourself look any more stupid by doing THE EXACT thing you accuse religious people of.

believing that "something came from nothing" (big bang) is just as much of a leap of faith as believing there is a all powerful god
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:28 PM
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It's not about religion. It's about how certain people use it to justify things. I understand Ron Paul is anti-abortion but he was also a doctor that studied medicine. That implies he has accepted the scientific process. Ron also says he would leave the issue of abortion up to the states. Meaning they can deny or accept abortion as a possibility, which is the specific policy I agree with.

I NEVER ONCE SAID OBAMA WAS GREAT. I SAID HE WASN'T RETARDED LIKE SOON TO BE PRESIDENT PALIN.
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:31 PM
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r-s for all you know I could be very deeply religious.

And something most likely didn't come from nothing. Before the big bang there was most likely another universe, and so on and so on.

To me it's more the idea of "what's here (as in what is contained in the universe) has always been here" makes far more sense than "on such and such day God created the universe."
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TorganFM
It's not about religion. It's about how certain people use it to justify things. I understand Ron Paul is anti-abortion but he was also a doctor that studied medicine. That implies he has accepted the scientific process. Ron also says he would leave the issue of abortion up to the states. Meaning they can deny or accept abortion as a possibility, which is the specific policy I agree with.

I NEVER ONCE SAID OBAMA WAS GREAT. I SAID HE WASN'T RETARDED LIKE SOON TO BE PRESIDENT PALIN.
obama uses religious all the time. do you even watch or listen to what he says? he is constantly using it...

how do you know palin would not leave it up to the states? repealing roe v wade is the first step in leaving it up to the states. republicans are more states rights (traditionally) than demorats

paul said specifically that he would favor a ban on abortion at the state level, he just wants it done constitutionally.

educate yourself please

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r-s for all you know I could be very deeply religious.
i really don't care
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:36 PM
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It's one thing to use religion to explain basic human rights, which happens across all cultures, and it's another to say something retarded like "God's will." That kind of conviction is scary to me and to the people across the world. I do not want a scary president.
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TorganFM
It's one thing to use religion to explain basic human rights, which happens across all cultures, and it's another to say something retarded like "God's will." That kind of conviction is scary to me and to the people across the world. I do not want a scary president.
obama does it all the time.
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