Acura 1.8 Ls Non-Vtec
05-06-2004, 07:18 AM
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Re:Acura 1.8 Ls Non-Vtec
Originally Posted by quadnie
Phalse,
Your intentions are good and your grammar/spelling is up to par, but slow down! Hell you nearly got flamed for that craziness. It would have been better to phrase your question in a manor of “what route should I take, this is what I have”. Give us as much detail as possible, tell us all about your car, what it’s done for you, where you’d like to be at the end with it. What kind of experience do you have? Do you at least change your own oil; are you willing to get your hands dirty? What tools do you have, are you willing to invest at least $500 on some equipment (if you don’t have anything)? Some people are better off buying a factory-boosted car (like a dsm), or buying a kit and paying someone to install it. You will be sacrificing reliability once this thing is in full swing, especially if you have no idea what’s going on in the car. Finally, do you have the finances to support this project? A 2nd car is pretty much a must since you can expect your integra to be down for a while (then again that loops back to the finance part).
Take my first segment into high consideration, if you are serious answer all of that and then you can say you’ve taken your first step. If you are going for the bottom end budget build then you’ve come to the right place. The cheapest way to do up a turbo would be to piece together the KIT yourself, checkout the vendors on this site, you can find some high end stuff at great prices (hint-hint Stealthmode, Tuner Toys) . Depending on what turbo you want expect a budget of $100-300 (used), the turbo is a very subjective topic, I will tell you to get a T-25, next person will tell you T3. The rest of the kit is all in what you want.. my hand is still kind of hurting (logging accident) so I can’t really give you the full 2 pages that I would normally write, give me back some input and I can point you someplace.
For the motor, if it’s in good condition, boost what you got already; in worst case just buy a spare one (btw what year/model is your car?). If you want to do a serious setup, look for the keywords “built LS/VTEC” do the research, if something comes up that you can’t answer yourself then comeback for consultation, but we aren’t going to spoon-feed your ***. If you want to run a 2.0 or a 2.2 Honda has many many different motors avail, you can swap anything you need (if your wallet is thick enough).
FYI I’m probably not going to spend over $500 on the turbo/full exhaust setup on my ’90 RS (that is on my to-do list), then again I have the tools and skills (mad skillz) to complete such a flat line project. Check this website found inside the links section on the main page of homemadeturbo.com out for some good reading:
http://www.beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html
read that 3 times over and come back and ask your questions.
-Ryan
Your intentions are good and your grammar/spelling is up to par, but slow down! Hell you nearly got flamed for that craziness. It would have been better to phrase your question in a manor of “what route should I take, this is what I have”. Give us as much detail as possible, tell us all about your car, what it’s done for you, where you’d like to be at the end with it. What kind of experience do you have? Do you at least change your own oil; are you willing to get your hands dirty? What tools do you have, are you willing to invest at least $500 on some equipment (if you don’t have anything)? Some people are better off buying a factory-boosted car (like a dsm), or buying a kit and paying someone to install it. You will be sacrificing reliability once this thing is in full swing, especially if you have no idea what’s going on in the car. Finally, do you have the finances to support this project? A 2nd car is pretty much a must since you can expect your integra to be down for a while (then again that loops back to the finance part).
Take my first segment into high consideration, if you are serious answer all of that and then you can say you’ve taken your first step. If you are going for the bottom end budget build then you’ve come to the right place. The cheapest way to do up a turbo would be to piece together the KIT yourself, checkout the vendors on this site, you can find some high end stuff at great prices (hint-hint Stealthmode, Tuner Toys) . Depending on what turbo you want expect a budget of $100-300 (used), the turbo is a very subjective topic, I will tell you to get a T-25, next person will tell you T3. The rest of the kit is all in what you want.. my hand is still kind of hurting (logging accident) so I can’t really give you the full 2 pages that I would normally write, give me back some input and I can point you someplace.
For the motor, if it’s in good condition, boost what you got already; in worst case just buy a spare one (btw what year/model is your car?). If you want to do a serious setup, look for the keywords “built LS/VTEC” do the research, if something comes up that you can’t answer yourself then comeback for consultation, but we aren’t going to spoon-feed your ***. If you want to run a 2.0 or a 2.2 Honda has many many different motors avail, you can swap anything you need (if your wallet is thick enough).
FYI I’m probably not going to spend over $500 on the turbo/full exhaust setup on my ’90 RS (that is on my to-do list), then again I have the tools and skills (mad skillz) to complete such a flat line project. Check this website found inside the links section on the main page of homemadeturbo.com out for some good reading:
http://www.beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html
read that 3 times over and come back and ask your questions.
-Ryan
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05-06-2004, 09:02 PM
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Re:Acura 1.8 Ls Non-Vtec
That was a long post, I will check out those links after I do some more research. Thanks for the information Ryan.
My car has 125000 miles on it.
Its a DOHC ls integra 93'
It has all stock motor except for an cold air intake
It has a 2 inch cat back with exhaust and sounds decent (not too high pitched).
SR preformance cross drilled rotors
new cv joints I just installed,
new struts TOIKO +
lowering springs with a 1 inch drop.
40 series tires with 16 inch white RSL concept rims.
I will post later this weekend after I do some more research. Thanks again for the help, Ryan. Late
My car has 125000 miles on it.
Its a DOHC ls integra 93'
It has all stock motor except for an cold air intake
It has a 2 inch cat back with exhaust and sounds decent (not too high pitched).
SR preformance cross drilled rotors
new cv joints I just installed,
new struts TOIKO +
lowering springs with a 1 inch drop.
40 series tires with 16 inch white RSL concept rims.
I will post later this weekend after I do some more research. Thanks again for the help, Ryan. Late
05-06-2004, 09:10 PM
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Re:Acura 1.8 Ls Non-Vtec
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05-06-2004, 09:45 PM
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Re:Acura 1.8 Ls Non-Vtec
Originally Posted by Phalse
That was a long post, I will check out those links after I do some more research. Thanks for the information Ryan.
My car has 125000 miles on it.
Its a DOHC ls integra 93'
It has all stock motor except for an cold air intake
It has a 2 inch cat back with exhaust and sounds decent (not too high pitched).
SR preformance cross drilled rotors
new cv joints I just installed,
new struts TOIKO +
lowering springs with a 1 inch drop.
40 series tires with 16 inch white RSL concept rims.
I will post later this weekend after I do some more research. Thanks again for the help, Ryan. Late
My car has 125000 miles on it.
Its a DOHC ls integra 93'
It has all stock motor except for an cold air intake
It has a 2 inch cat back with exhaust and sounds decent (not too high pitched).
SR preformance cross drilled rotors
new cv joints I just installed,
new struts TOIKO +
lowering springs with a 1 inch drop.
40 series tires with 16 inch white RSL concept rims.
I will post later this weekend after I do some more research. Thanks again for the help, Ryan. Late
You didn't tell me the secifics I needed about your car, you provided me with things that I already know (DOHC) and things I didn't need to know (suspension/brakes), so let us assume your car is a 5 speed LS motor.
What about tools? You willing to make some investments (like $350-500 for a welder setup) in equpiment? Do you have the space to work on the car? Want to get your hands dirty? Do you know how to wield a soldering gun? If you plan on chipping your own ECU then you need to know something about circuit boards and programming. This again goes back to who is installing this thing, if you plan on doing it yourself then you need to supply me with a lot more info about what you can and can't do. Budget Budget Budget, what kinda finances do you have set aside for this project?
If it only has 125k miles on it, inspect the motor, do a compression check and make sure it has all routine maintenance before beginning (timing belt, water pump, belts, hoses). Now would be a good time to consider doing the LS/Vtec swap if that's the route you want to go, while everything is apart. Either way, just ride with that motor, it will last you a good while (with proper maintenance and assuming you haven't beat it to the ground).
Your exhaust is borderline for a turbo setup, is it mandrel bent or crushed bent? If it's crushed bent then expect to replace it all with either a 3" crushed bend or 2.5" mandrel bent one. Flow is everything with a turbo. So if it's a good exhaust that is mandrel bent you can still ride with it, lose the cat. You can always throw it back on for testing but it needs to go with the current setup + boost.
Well since we are keeping your existing motor and possibly existing exhaust (if you follow my advice) then we have these things to pick out. Do you plan on running with or without a/c, this will play a pretty big role in fitment.
Turbo: I wouldn't go with anything crazy, best bet would be a T3 or a T25, this is very negotiable and opinions are all over on this one.
Manifold: The might make your turbo choice real fast for you, do you want to build it yourself? Going for tubular or log style? Think about this one.
Downpipe: Unless you own/plan2buy a welder then this will most likely have to be fabbed up at an exhaust shop to connect to whatever exhaust you go with.
Management: Going for hondata/zdyne or you plan to chip your own? There are other alternatives for rising the fuel but control from the ECU is the best way to go.
Everything else isn't as big of a deal, lines can be made or purchased from stealthmode, charge piping can be made or purchased, but it's not something that is going to be a major decision. Intercooler is another thing that has to be purchased (I doubt you could even think about making your own).
Gather up a list of smaller parts and you should be set, one thing I wouldn't worry about is making fuel adjustments, the stock integra injectors/pump should handle just fine on a non built block that isn't running anything crazy.
Consider some nice toys like MSD spark control, Turbo Timer, Boost Controller, and BOV if you have the budget left over.
Read thru and answer every one of my questions, then you will have a better stance in the planning phase of this project.
-ryan
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