hotrex

second season on going to the track every wednesday and saturday coupled with hundreds of dyno pulls street madness ect.

actually it was 828 whp all boost on 54 psi sprays a 50 shot at the track .

btw stock head gasket for a b6a is a mls unit.

and the head gasket was not the point of failure, so why dont you go ahead and box up your mother and send her over for some ---- you ------ nig infested cooter

vid of said talon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2IpfDL3blI


300hp stock motor without work? haha you truly are ------ ignorant. why dont you go shove one of those ------ lame radio controlled planes up your *** and rotate on it

BigBird

watch out for the 7bolt motors they are prone to crank walk, the bolts are not.

Toysrme

hotrex talk to me when anything you've worked on god forbid built ran for five minutes without a problem. maybe your hands wouldn't ---- up everything you touch if they weren't so big from the combination of steriod fat-ness and bending your shrunken dick into your *** you open sore stubble hair sucking man carpet licker

Slo_crx1

I hear a lot of hating going on from either people who've never owned one going on hearsay, or by people that bought beat to ---- DSM's. It's true that the 1st gen tranny's are kinda weak, but like said...if you can get it rebuilt to hold power you won't have an issue with it. Maintenance is key on the 4g63, probably a bit more so than your average honda. As long as you keep up on that you won't have any issues with a 6 bolt bottom. Obviously stay away from the 2nd gen with the 7 bolt, although the typical crank walk found on them is usually clutch related to the point of wearing out the thrust washers. 400whp on a stock 4g63 is pretty typical if you do the right upgrades...larger turbo, fmic, cams, tuning (other than an afc) can land you right where you want...in vette stompin' land. The comment with the timing belt issue...they should be replaced often, more so on the 4g63 than a honda. I just did mine on my Evo at 60k even though the old belt looked solid, Gates Racing kevlar belt ftw! Honestly you can't beat the cast iron solid deck design...I say go for it!

stillnoturbo

I just sold my GVR4 a few months ago. Car had 180k and still had the original engine. It was pretty much stock except for exhaust and stuff like that but every oil seal was leaking but like I said, original engine and started up every morning and never let me down. I drove it like it was glass though as it was my daily driver. Will I ever go back to a DSM...nope. I'm happy with my Volvo.

BigD

I had a 2g non turbo, friend had a 2g Talon turbo, and another friend had a 2g GST. All I can say is electrical nightmares. I finally gave up and sold it for $1000 less than I paid for it not to mention all the money I forked over within the past month tracking down the issue. Guy bought it and within a month the tranny took a ----

turborski

http://eurodyne.ca/TappAuto/gallery/9.89short.wmv ...........................................****
they do require maintenance....but what car at 750+ hp doesn't
how many hondas do you see that run high nines that are reliable

Slo_crx1

My point exactly. How many honda's even hit 400whp reliably? Not too many...

jmhalder

as mentioned here, awesome engine, provided engine doesnt crank-walk its way to death, DSM owners are some crazy people, my buddy with his AWD 1G was ------ crazy, drove with so much busted ---- on his car, busted *** interior, few dents, busted lights... he drove with no power steering belt for ~3 years and had a busted CTS that cause warming up to be pretty damn rough... and had a front half-shaft pop out, just got on it till the center viscous warmed up enough to drive the rear exclusively, made for some slow *** around town moving(the center diff worked like a damn terrible torque converter)... he had a parts car AWD 1G also, and a D50 with a 4G64 wideblock, he had a HUGE project for that, but we ghettoly finished it and it ran a total of ~4 times till the valves met the pistons.... at the end of it he got another car for free from his dad (96 altima) and sold both DSM's and his D50 for $1500... believe me though, his 1G was what made me want to boost my car, amazing engines, just unreliable. oh yeah and as for the 4G64 wideblock with stock 64 pistons and 63 head (~12.5:1) and a 4G63 ECU wired up, this was the thread we posted when we got it running http://projectzerog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=252

BigD

That shouldn't be in the same sentence as DSM. They are just built shitty. Sure the 6 bolts are decent motors, everything else pn them is just cheap trash.