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Old 08-26-2004, 11:34 PM
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Well I'm doing a custom interior and that is going to include racing seats w/ a 4 point harness....well I was planning on attaching them to the strut bar, but ppl don't seem to think that it would be too good of an idea, seeing that the strut bar will just snap like a little bitch...which im sure it will...

This is a daily driver that is just a turbo zc... not aiming for sub 12 sec slips (yet) it is just that i'd like some added saftey... and i want the seats/belts...

I have access to a mandrel bender that bends roll cages that I can use for free of charge and I'm just wondering what 1.75" dia, .120 wall mild steel tubing will cost me ? (is that even the right ---- i wanna use?) well I'm assuming probably like... 20-25ft of tubing will be used in a 4 point cage...

hopefully it wont add more than 100lbs or so...

which im sure it will probalby add more like 150-200lbs but whatever....

but anyways,

would it even be worth it to put a 4 point cage in or should i do a 6 point cage?

i'd like something that I can still get out of my car without much hassle and that ---- so yea

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Old 08-27-2004, 02:51 PM
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you posted in the wrong location. and you wonder why there's no replys? That's why......
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Old 08-27-2004, 03:17 PM
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6 pt if u plan on hitting 12's at the track
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:18 PM
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i meant to post it in the general section

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Old 08-27-2004, 06:08 PM
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Default Re:Is a 4 point cage worth it?....

well honestly, i dont know ---- about making cages..i do know they save lives..god knows i was lucky wheni got hit from behind by a drunk driver....anyway get one!
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:02 PM
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Im planning for mid 12s. I will be running a Momo Start racing seat, custom fixed mounting brackets, Simpson 5pt harness, and a custom made 4pt rollbar. I would stick with a 4pt roll bar but get a 5pt harness. In a head on collision your body will want to go forward and will do that by slipping down under the harness, the harness will then travel up into your gut causing internal bleeding and all sorts of fun stuff.

I researched this stuff for about a year and learned that you cannot half *** safety no matter what. Any corner you cut could lead to your life. You may say, "well I dont want to spend the extra money on a seat that accepts a 5pt" or something of the sort. Let me ask you, is your life worth that 300 dollar seat?
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Old 08-27-2004, 11:00 PM
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I agree with teg.u.p., you can't sacrifice safety. Unlike a homemade turbo, a homemade rollcage isn't very smart unless you know what you're doing. Get a pro to fab it up, the bars should be as close to the car as possible. Get a harness bar welded between the main loop. Stick with a 5 or 6 pt. The 4 pt. harnesses are not legal for any racing organization for a good reason (what teg.u.p. said). Good luck.
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Old 08-27-2004, 11:56 PM
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okay which would be safer:

1991 honda crx si

stock SI seats
stock 3 point seat belts

or...

4 point roll cage
"racing" seats
4 point seat belts attached to the cage

4 point belts offer just the same as the regular belts do right? you have just the same amount of chance of sliding under a 3 point belt as you do a 4 point belt....

this isn't going to be for a "race" car , it is a daily driven street car that i want to be a bit safer than stock especially in a roll over situation.

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Old 08-28-2004, 01:31 PM
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Old 08-28-2004, 01:41 PM
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I would stick with the stock setup. If your getting racing seats, why not just get a 5pt harness and not worry about it?
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