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Old 07-02-2007, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by doug684
This guy is talking about just selling it out right forget the paper work. I take it if for whatever reason they ever find it I'm fucked?

That is a felony. Don't be a dumbass like ****.



Originally Posted by ZC EF 4dR
theres alot of guns that have a failure to eject (FTE) issue some guns just dont like certain types of ammo, glocks im sure have a much higher rate of problems with FTE than the kel-tec, especially when you shoot JHP rounds through them, but does fine with FMJ. also some people dont understand that alot of the "cheap-o range ammo" *cough-winchester-cough* burn really ------ dirty and have lots of carbon and smoke which can build up on the round slide going from the mag to the chamber.

Also it could be some people just don't know how to keep heir firearms properly maintained (well oiled and clean), especially those "it comes oiled from the factory ill just go shoot it right after i got it" people (those people are morons).

My XD9 has about 4000 rounds down the barrel with all reloaded range ammo or winchester white box and 200 or so of remington JHPs. I have not had a single FTE or FTF. My Mil-spec has about 1000 and no problems there either.

I take care of my guns though. Most of them get cleaned after every range trip. Although I did let my XD "wait" 1000 rounds just to see if I could provoke a failure, but nothing.


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Old 07-02-2007, 08:32 PM
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My XD9 has about 4000 rounds down the barrel with all reloaded range ammo or winchester white box and 200 or so of remington JHPs. I have not had a single FTE or FTF. My Mil-spec has about 1000 and no problems there either.

I take care of my guns though. Most of them get cleaned after every range trip. Although I did let my XD "wait" 1000 rounds just to see if I could provoke a failure, but nothing.
i said some not allthats also a springfield.. why do you think i own an xd40? because they are awesome :P

although the part where you said you "waited" to clean it.. thats no good because what if you ever needed to use it, because you wanted to prove a point you provided yourself with a less dependable firearm (as if it was your only firearm which im sure its not because almost no one buys a Springfield as their first). and not to mention made it more work to clean.. dried caked on ---- is no ------ fun to scrub.
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:36 PM
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Didn't say I would buy it. I only want one for home protection anyways. I guess if I had to ever use it for protection I would then be fucked so I will go the legal way.
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those are some huge *** ------ clips lmao
That's funny...




What's open carry mean? Like just you can see someone is carrying a gun? That's legal, but if it's hidden you need a permit?


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What's open carry mean? Like just you can see someone is carrying a gun? That's legal, but if it's hidden you need a permit?
where its visible in sight at all times and not concealed. concealed means hidden under clothes or jacket (not in sight)
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:52 PM
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Are you on crack! The Kel-Tec 380 is notorius for FTEs. The issue is that Kel-Tec has shitty quality control. The gun could be good, but you kinda of need to get lucky and get a decent one. Or you can send it to a smith and get it reworked, then it's nice carry pistol.
Do you own one? Have you shot one? Have you experienced this? EVERY item ever sold in the history of ANYTHING ever manufactured has had a problem in one way or another. I guarentee I can find SOMEONE who has had a problem with anything you can think of. That doesn't mean everything in the world is ----. I've read dozens of people who haven't had a single problem with their P3AT.

http://www.gunblast.com/KelTec_P3AT.htm
After three years of carrying the P32, I expected the new .380 to be reliable, and I was not disappointed. I tested the P3AT with several different varieties of ammunition, both factory and handloads. The gun fed, fired, and ejected perfectly, with no malfunctions of any kind.

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Ok well i Just got back with it. Bought a 9mm cp for 218.95 with holster 100 rounds and cleaning kit. Shot all 100 rounds no problem. Gotta say it shot much better than i thought it would. Definately worth my money.
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Originally Posted by RotaryGeek
Ok well i Just got back with it. Bought a 9mm cp for 218.95 with holster 100 rounds and cleaning kit. Shot all 100 rounds no problem. Gotta say it shot much better than i thought it would. Definately worth my money.
dont tell me you took it straight out and shot it after buying it ?
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I own the keltec p3at .380 auto. good carry piece. lightest and thinnest 380. I had it jam once in the first 50 rounds i put through it.

I would get the 9mm if u just want to have a gun to have a gun.
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Do you own one? Have you shot one? Have you experienced this? EVERY item ever sold in the history of ANYTHING ever manufactured has had a problem in one way or another. I guarentee I can find SOMEONE who has had a problem with anything you can think of. That doesn't mean everything in the world is ----. I've read dozens of people who haven't had a single problem with their P3AT.

http://www.gunblast.com/KelTec_P3AT.htm

I have shot one and it FTF'd a couple times. I have to say though, this was a range gun and most employees are idiots so I stripped and lubed it myself. After that it shot fine. I had the same experience with a SIG P229 before too. Sometimes the ranges don't take good care of their guns. The SIG was even worse. After some lube it shot perfect.

I'm just giving you ---- cause well IT'S A FUGLY ------- HANDGUN.




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