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Old 04-19-2008, 12:13 AM
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my dad hadnt done ---- no proof he did anything and he got convicted..

these guys took money, trash talked the govt on hours of tapes talked about doing ---- and thought up ways to attack soft targets all recorded on mother ------- video tape and theyre ------- defense is that they were "just joking" and they get a ------- mistrial.. my dad didnt do jack ------- ---- and hes sitting in a jail cell right now...

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/nat...48&format=text
Deadlocked jury forces 2nd mistrial in Miami terrorism case

By Associated Press | Wednesday, April 16, 2008 | http://www.bostonherald.com | U.S./ South Region
MIAMI - The second trial of six men accused of plotting attacks on Chicago’s Sears Tower and FBI offices ended with a second hung jury Wednesday, an embarrassing blow to a case the Bush administration had cited as an example of nipping a devastating terrorist attack in the bud.

U.S. District Judge Joan Lenard declared a mistrial when jurors reported they were deadlocked after 13 days of deliberations in the case of the so-called "Liberty City Seven."

The first trial ended in December in a hung jury for the same six defendants and the acquittal of a seventh. Lenard set an April 23 hearing where federal prosecutors say they will announce whether they will pursue another trial.

"There’s no way to spin this other than to say this is another stunning defeat for the government," said Matthew Orwig, former U.S. attorney in Texas who served on a Justice Department terrorism and national security panel.

The defendants were arrested in a June 2006 operation hailed by the Bush administration as a prime example of the post-Sept. 11 strategy of preventing terrorism plots in the earliest possible stages. Yet there was no evidence the group ever acquired explosives or took concrete steps toward staging the attacks; they did have a handgun and a few machetes.

The case was built on hundreds of FBI audio and video recordings and the testimony of two paid FBI informants, one of whom posed as an al-Qaida operative sent from overseas to help the group put together its plan. One key video recording showed the informant, known to the group as Brother Mohammed, having the men make an oath of allegiance to al-Qaida.

But the group’s alleged ringleader, Narseal Batiste, testified that he was faking interest in the plots in hopes of conning $50,000 out of Mohammed, whose real name is Elie Assad.

The six could have faced up to 70 years in prison if convicted of four conspiracy charges.

It’s rare for federal prosecutors to lose at all, with a conviction rate of over 90 percent across the country. It’s rarer still for a case to endure two mistrials and go to trial a third time.

Defense lawyers indicated in court they would seek to have the men released on bail at next week’s hearing.

Jurors in this trial first reported a stalemate last Friday and sent out a second note reporting an impasse on Tuesday. Each time, Lenard ordered the seven-man, five-woman jury to keep trying.

"They’ve deliberated. They’ve discussed this case inside and out," said Rod Vereen, who represents defendant Stanley Phanor. "At this point, enough is enough."

The jury refused media requests for interviews. Their identities are being kept secret under Lenard’s orders, and deputy U.S. marshals barred reporters from speaking directly with the jurors after the mistrial was announced.

Batiste led a sect called the Moorish Science Temple that blends elements of Judaism, Christianity and Islam and does not recognize the authority of the U.S. government. The group met at a building called "the Embassy" and later at a warehouse wired for eavesdropping by the FBI.

Batiste, the only defendant to testify, said his group was focused on doing charitable works in the impoverished Liberty City neighborhood and on helping their construction business. Prosecutors said the group was plotting to wage war on the U.S.

Some defendants took pictures of the FBI office and other federal buildings in Miami, which prosecutors called surveillance for future attacks.

Batiste is overheard on the tapes comparing the U.S. government to Satan and talking about mounting "a full ground war," but he insisted on the stand that he wasn’t serious.

Batiste attorney Ana M. Jhones told jurors the group was set up by the FBI informants and the case was pursued only because of the Bush administration’s zeal to make high-profile terrorism arrests in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

"This is about justifying the unjustifiable," Jhones said in closing arguments.

The man acquitted after the first trial, 33-year-old Lyglenson Lemorin, is facing deportation to Haiti over the same terrorism allegations. Only one of the remaining defendants is not a U.S. citizen.
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I thought you could only be tried for a crime once, or is that only if you are found not guilty and doesn't apply to a hung jury?
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I thought you could only be tried for a crime once, or is that only if you are found not guilty and doesn't apply to a hung jury?
mistrial means retry.. technically they havent been tried because the judge deemed it a mistrial..
the jury has to come back with a verdict.. or say that they cant agree..
if they say they cant agree the person is let off,, and they cant be tried again.. but if the judge declares a mistrial then the person is retried

i practically begged our judge in letters to just declare a mistrial.. even sent her a list of a ---- ---- ton of reasons to declare mistrial.. told her you have enough things here to declare mistrial 100x over.. why wont you do it?

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You should go on tv with it.

Judge is probably more scared of the people that might be pissed about him/her letting a "terrorist" escape than his little terrorist son.
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Originally Posted by buk9tp
mistrial means retry.. technically they havent been tried because the judge deemed it a mistrial..
the jury has to come back with a verdict.. or say that they cant agree..
if they say they cant agree the person is let off,, and they cant be tried again.. but if the judge declares a mistrial then the person is retried

i practically begged our judge in letters to just declare a mistrial.. even sent her a list of a ---- ---- ton of reasons to declare mistrial.. told her you have enough things here to declare mistrial 100x over.. why wont you do it?

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What proof did they have that your dad did anything? They won't convict on just circumstancial evidence, cuz the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendent is guilty. They must have had some pretty compelling evidence fingering your dad.
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What proof did they have that your dad did anything? They won't convict on just circumstancial evidence, cuz the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendent is guilty. They must have had some pretty compelling evidence fingering your dad.
not a god damn thing..

on the contrary we had videos showing the aide and a guy testifying that 3 out of every 4 boxes for his aide ---- came from my dad.. also all this ---- that they say my dad did happend early 90's and he had nothing to do with any of his codefendents.. other than talking to one of em on the phone..

they have nothing on my dad.. its just that the jury was retarded. the deliberations were expected to last a week.. i think the jury finished in less than 5 hours..

one of the jurrors interviewed after the trial said that she had "all but made up her mind" even before the trial began
another one said my dad did alot of good things but also did alot of bad things.. and when she was asked to specify some bad things she had no ------- answer

this is all complete ------- bullshit

but its fine.. come appeal my dad will get off..
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fingering your dad.
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