Jon Black

OK, Im sure that this is going to start a fight, but I want to know your opinions.

I currently have a 1991 CRX Si with a blown engine, rods are knocking.

My question is:
Would I be better off (speed, $, cheap parts - wise) just getting something like a Eagle Talon AWD Turbo or sinking a bunch of money into the CRX putting a ZC and turbo into it.

My goal is to run low 14s, high 13s, without spending a fortune.

Thanks for your help
Jon Black

HMT-Admin

this one is simple... even though I am a total honda guy..

FACT
It is easy to make a DSM go fast for less money than it would for a honda.

FACT
DSM's styling looks like complete ----, and visibilty just blows, just go drive one and you will understand.

FACT
A DSM AWD lightly modded will kick the living ---- out of a FWD Honda crx zc turbo, even with a a nice set of slicks.

FACT
It is easy to acheive a incredibly fast street car with DSM's and keep it very relibile. The 4g63 is a incredible motor.

FACT

Honda ownz..

Good luck
Jeff frank

Jon Black

Jeff

Thanks man. There is one thing you said I didn't understand, though...

HMT-Admin

that wasnt a real fact.. just my opinion..
you would never see me in a dsm anyday, unless I am fixing it for someone else.

Oh and I cant belive I forgot my favorite one..


FACT

95% of DSM owners think they know absolutely everything

Novtec1

guess i'll be part of the 5% that don't know everything

DSM's can be made very fast for cheap but you gotta be ready for some headache...they require a lot of maintance (sp) i've had mine for about a year (90 awd tsi) i love it (when its running)

its very easy to make them 13 sec cars even with the stock sidemount, injectors and turbo. just do a lot of reading about them check out

www.dsm.org
www.dsmtalk.com

that should get you started. hth

Jon Black

Thanks for the help and the links.

Jon Black

AK_CRX

I have lots of friends with very fast DSM's, I dont have a single friend who hasn't had to replace his tranny atleast once, or replace his clutch atleast twice. A tranny replacement on an awd seams to run about 2,500+. Clutches arent cheap either. Shop time is a killer, there is a lot of stuff to take apart to get the tranny/clutch out of an awd. sure its cheap to make a DSM fast, its just extremely expensive to keep it fast. My friend Allen here in Anchorage Alaska ran a 13.72 with a 91 plymouth laser fwd turbo with $50. in mods... Cut off exhaust at the downpipe, KnN air filter, manual boost controller and race gas. Oh, thats with a stock clutch and 142,000 miles. The car only ran for 2 weeks after he bought it

PoorMansPorsche

The only thing that keeps alot of us from being dsm owners, is dsm owners. Most of them sware there the fastes thing on the road, they rev on everyone, luv body kits, bigg wheels and men..., there your typical ricer kinda like neons or sentra's

Collente

Ya know, I think there are about a million more Honda owners that think they know everything and no absolutly ----. It does go both ways, but I think Honda oners are a lot worse. Infact this bored probibaly makes up 70% of honda owners that know wtf their talking about.
Nick
97RS (eclipse)
Custom IHI Stage2

Jcushing

for me its styling of 1g, crank walk on 2g, and reliability of both....

you know the saying, cheap, reliable, fast

pick any 2

cheap, reliable = civic
cheap, fast = dsm or z28
reliable, fast = z06 vette