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Old 09-27-2005, 07:53 PM
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Twin turbo is fine, they're very efficient as is. The problem is people thinking they can pull 300-400 hp out of a single Vj11 or T Bird, thats not gonna happen.

What IHI were you using? VJ11?
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Old 09-28-2005, 11:05 AM
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These are the 'bird turbos. Those are VJ17s-correct?
I can't wait to get a complete dyno pull.
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:40 PM
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No, VJ17 were used in the 1.8 (BPT) 323 GTX Group A rally cars and never made it to the US.http://www.mazdafun.com/product%20info%20turbo.htm The T Birds are referred to as VC34.
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:29 PM
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so is the ihirhb5 turbo from a ford probe turbo goin to fine for my f22a1 sohc and it boost stock 8.7 psi with out the electronice booost controller rite? im not looking for alot of power thanks guys so much to read here
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i am planning on picking up an 89 accord hooptie and i am gonna slap a cheep turbo setup on it. the motror is an a20a single cam 12v motor. its 2.0l my boss has a tbird turbo sitting in his garage that he is not going to use, so i might see what he wants for it. i am totally going ceep-out for the whole set up. its just for fun, and i am just learing about turbos. i am not doing any engine mods to the car. i am hoping to run about 12 psi. the motor has an iron block so i should be able to play at least for this summer before i blow it up. my only question is, how would you compare the tbird turbo to that of a dodge shelby? i know those also go pretty cheep on ebay. what ever turbo i use i dont plan on spending more than $70 on it
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Old 01-08-2006, 07:10 PM
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Holy crap are you guys good at bringing back old threads. One important thing to remember is that the T Birds used different turbos throughout the years. The Warner Ishi has a T3 exhaust side but has an IHI turbine and is interchangable with the VJ11. The wasgate is regulated to 8.7 psi and should not go past 14 psi.

The T3/aiResearch has a T3 exhaust housing AND a T3 turbine and is not interchangeable with IHI whatsoever. This turbo came with either a .48 A/R or .63 A/R exhaust housing depending on if it was MTX or ATX. The wastegate was regulated to 14 psi.

There is a BIG difference between the Warner Ishi and the Garrett/aiResearch turbos.
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Old 01-08-2006, 07:59 PM
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i am not really sure of what turbo it is, or if i am going to use it. i really dont plan of going over 12 psi so i guess either one would work. its wither one of these or the shely turbo, whichever is cheepest.

i am totally cheeping out
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Old 01-11-2006, 11:42 AM
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My mechanical boost gauge reads 10-11 psi on those IHIs without any boost control.
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All 2.3 ford wategate actautors be it a ihi or t3 are 10# units, On the EFI 2.3's with the fuel switch in "regular" mode the car would run 10#. When switched to "Premium" the BSC (Boost Control Solenoid) would open an air bleed orfice and allow it to run 15#.
But if you are worried about it just check the one you have. But I am certain about the ford 2.3 wastegate actuators, I have been messing with 2.3 turbos for years. Here was mine http://www.eville140.com/rx7.html

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super old thread i know, but I thought I should update this in case some one searches - i dpn't want to give out more bad info than I have.

I just updated my IHI page for the first time in a longgg time: Matt's IHI Turbo Page <p>IHI = Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries.

Sick is correct, the T-bird is indeed not a vj17. I wont get into where that came from, but the info he posted about is all correct.

Except the fact that that "T bird" compressor map is actually from a VM9:

Looking here for the comp spec: RHB5 - Ihi - Catalog - TurboMaster
shows that its a VM9 from a Maserati of some sort

Then you can get the actual comp wheel dimensions (41.3/52.5mm) here:
http://www.turbointernational.com/im...atalog-IHI.pdf

Which luckily turn out to be pretty close. So while I don't think I ruined anyone's set up with an off compressor map, I thought i should set that strait...

BTW - I saw some one quote my web page calling me Mark? Where the heck did that come from lol. Its Matt.
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