Chopper turbo build
08-17-2010, 10:25 AM
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first i should say this: turboing carb'd motors is unpredictable and a challenge to tune.
knowing this now i can help
you will need a fuel pump with an adjustable 1:1 boost reference rising rate fuel pressure regulator. you will need to run more fuel pressure than boost otherwise the fuel will stop flowing. a blow through design is prefered as it has more capability than a draw through design. however, draw through design is the easiest.
your carb will work for either system. you may need to build a plenum for a blow through design.
knowing this now i can help
you will need a fuel pump with an adjustable 1:1 boost reference rising rate fuel pressure regulator. you will need to run more fuel pressure than boost otherwise the fuel will stop flowing. a blow through design is prefered as it has more capability than a draw through design. however, draw through design is the easiest.
your carb will work for either system. you may need to build a plenum for a blow through design.
08-17-2010, 07:19 PM
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Alrighty any suggestions for the fuel pump? something affordable. Im new to turbos always wanted to do a build so I thought my chopper might be the most interesting to do. Im looking into a turbo off of a Jetta, waiting to find out what year so I can figure out whats on it for a turbo.
08-17-2010, 08:22 PM
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Also I was hoping to make Boost around 3000-3500 to 6000 ( bike stops pulling around 5800-5900) This should keep it driveable around town i think. Would the T25 work out for this if thats what I go with??
08-18-2010, 09:18 AM
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aeromotive sells them for 180.00.. see link and scroll down the page.
Boost referenced fuel pressure regulator - Shop sales, stores & prices at TheFind.com
a jetta turbo uses a kkk turbo. audi/vw use the smae turbo on there 1.8t engines. i used that turbo on a gsxr 600 turbo build and it spooled at 6000rpm so that may be a good low end rpm turbo for your application. it will be more difficult to build your turbo system with that turbo as there is no aftermarket turbo inlet/outlet flanges or oil feed/return fittings for that turbo so you will have to make them all. a t25 is very similiar to the kkk turbo. i would go with the t25 as there are many more aftermarket parts for it. you can find flanges, gaskets, oil feed and return fittings easily.
Boost referenced fuel pressure regulator - Shop sales, stores & prices at TheFind.com
a jetta turbo uses a kkk turbo. audi/vw use the smae turbo on there 1.8t engines. i used that turbo on a gsxr 600 turbo build and it spooled at 6000rpm so that may be a good low end rpm turbo for your application. it will be more difficult to build your turbo system with that turbo as there is no aftermarket turbo inlet/outlet flanges or oil feed/return fittings for that turbo so you will have to make them all. a t25 is very similiar to the kkk turbo. i would go with the t25 as there are many more aftermarket parts for it. you can find flanges, gaskets, oil feed and return fittings easily.
And also im a little confused, am I looking for a fuel pressure regulator, or a pump??
08-18-2010, 09:42 PM
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08-18-2010, 09:44 PM
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you'll need a fuel pump, otherwise the boost will push it back up into the tank.
You have an oil coller on that thing? cylinder temps would be my primary concern. I read somewhere that Harleys run over 700* naturally aspirated on the rear cylinder, since it gets very little air flow.
Oh, and I would try a 14B turbo, or even something smaller, like the 13 series from Mitsubishi
You have an oil coller on that thing? cylinder temps would be my primary concern. I read somewhere that Harleys run over 700* naturally aspirated on the rear cylinder, since it gets very little air flow.
Oh, and I would try a 14B turbo, or even something smaller, like the 13 series from Mitsubishi
08-19-2010, 09:19 AM
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yes. you will need a fuel pump and a fuel pressure regulator that references boost 1:1(1 psi fuel pressure raise for every pound of boost). very good point josh. air cooled motors will run hotter with boost so there may be rear cylinder cooling issues or even frequent head gasket failure.
08-19-2010, 10:21 PM
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Yeah I do agree with the oil cooler my big bear and my dads west coast chopper both run very very hot cause of the large engines. I have to start purchasing parts for the build so maybe ill start with the oil cooler this weekend
